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Date/Time: Mon, 28 Apr 2025 08:49:32 +0000
[User Discussion] - The Ultimate PC of the year 2020 for Sierra Chart. CPU/GPU/CM/RAM/SSD
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| [2025-02-02 19:06:21] |
| blt - Posts: 59 |
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... to all: allow me to present my trading machine (out of this world; BLT5900 ver.03) GIGABYTE AORUS Z790 XTREME X INTEL CORE I9-14900 KS SSD CRUTIAL T705 2TB 192 GB DDR5 CORSAIR VENGEANCE (4x48) 2x GIGABYTE RX 7600 XT 16 GB OC ARCTIC LIQUID FREEZER 360 RGB BEQUITE! 1600 Watts BEQUITE DARK BASE PRO 901 8+1 34" ASUS 2K MONITORS INTERNET 1.5G wired with wireless back-up from another provider Couple weeks ago I was asking SC SUPPORT about light lagging of everything (they just introduced option for choosing timers) With this set-up my trading came to another level My machine does everything of its own and I am there just to clean dust and play my guitar for the mood (blt5900 likes that) Also thanks to superb design of SC I have zero problems If you need anything further feel free to contact me leonardo |
| [2025-02-02 21:10:37] |
| Yeager - Posts: 132 |
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whats the timer option?
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| [2025-02-02 21:15:53] |
| blt - Posts: 59 |
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...@Yeager... you could go with SC with options to set or you can go with OS (Windows 11 pro in my machine) believe me INTEL I9-14900KS is a King in this case along with unbelievable Crucial T705 |
| [2025-02-03 10:40:40] |
| Calculus - Posts: 109 |
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Hell of a rig you've got, very powerful. Many have said that SC works far better (less lag in very volatile times) if you place the program on its own separate SSD. And money doesn't look like it's an option for you! Leave Windows and everything else on your present SSD and I'm sure your mobo has at least another M2 slot, maybe even 3-4 in total. Search this board for a Frenchman named Dorian, he's an expert re setting up hardware for SC. PS. Are you sure you've got enough RAM? Date Time Of Last Edit: 2025-02-03 10:42:27
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| [2025-02-03 12:05:18] |
| Dorian - Posts: 64 |
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With 3 Sierra Chart software running simultaneously (taking 2 P-cores each), and video recording behind, I never exceed 16 GB of RAM. Intel i9s are not worth it, they are expensive compared to the i7. The additional gain is only 200 MHz with Turbo Boost between the Intel Core Ultra 9 285K and the Intel Core Ultra 7 265K. If you take the risk of overclocking it to exceed the Turbo Boost frequency, you take the risk that the computer will reboot. Favor stability. The Intel 13th and 14th generation series are defective. Instead, take the Arrow Lake series, for example the Intel Core Ultra 7 265K. If you really want an i9-14900KS, you have to buy it new and update the BIOS before using it, otherwise it will disintegrate. https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/intel-raptor-lake-instability-troubles-everything-you-need-to-know If you want to spend more than $2500 on a computer tower, get a motherboard with a W880 chipset that will be released in a few weeks and you can put ECC RAM, so the computer will have no problem. Desktop processors use Dual Channel for RAM, so they work more efficiently with 2 identical sticks than 4 identical sticks. It is the HEDT processors that use 4 sticks (Quad Channel). As for the graphics card, it never exceeds 10% for a Quadro P600, and it is especially video recording that hits 10%. A used nVIDIA Quadro at 50 USD is more than enough. The Quadro P600 consumes 13W when I trade, and when I record the screen. So the graphics card is not the priority, but a graphics card with good drivers, yes. You can put 2 M.2 SSDs, one for Windows and one for Sierra Chart. For the CPU, don't forget to disable those pesky E-cores, and Hyper-threading if you have it, so you can point Sierra Chart at 2 P-cores each. https://trading-order-flow.fr/intel-core-ultra-7-265k/ |
| [2025-02-03 13:15:03] |
| User456039 - Posts: 24 |
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Dorian, I wanted to take this opportunity to thank you for all the info you provided. It has helped me tremendously, and I went through all your old posts; your website is great, and I wish I could speak French. Over the weekend, I set up Process Lasso and allocated cores over the three separate installs. I ordered a cheap Quadro P4000 from eBay to get onto Nvidia Open GL drivers. My use is more charts/levels/multiple timeframes and tape reading across 20+ futures, so I prefer the Open GL enabled. My three instances already use up 3GB of vRAM, and I have more studies and charts to add, so I wanted the 8GB card (I also use PC for CaptureOne photo editing). I'm still on a 2017 B350 Gaming Pro Carbon motherboard with 3600X, PCie3 and DDR4, 2x16GB 2R B-die @ 2933mhz, which is rock solid and stable at tight timing (but I can't get 3200 due either to the B350 or the 3600x). I have the main OS drive on a 1GB Samsung 970EVO on PCie3 x4 M2 connected to the CPU with 1 x Sierra Chart for Daily/Weekly/Monthly with slow update and 2 x Sierra Chart on a separate 250GB 960EVO on the chipset PCIe. However, I had to use an adapter https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08VRN6PJS in a spare PCIe to add this second NVMe drive (limitation of the B350), so it's PCie Gen2 x 4 but it works just fine @ Read 1611MB/s, Write 1232MB/s, Random Read 259,521 IOPS, Random Write 241,455 IOPS and I use this drive for my fast update installs and alerts. I'm swapping out the 3600x to 5800x soon as a last upgrade, and I know the above system seems rubbish, but it works flawlessly with Sierra Charts for what I need with the order entry charts set at 80ms and the rest at 500ms and leaves more money for trading. I appreciate trading on DOM/Ladder with L2 data, nanosecond latency on news events or setting up automated trading, as well as trading high-end account NLV needs a whole new level of performance, so if I had the money and were trading at a higher level, I would upgrade it all. When I swap out the whole system, I will follow your recommendations on the CPU/Cores/Motherboard and drives. Date Time Of Last Edit: 2025-02-03 13:30:06
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| [2025-02-03 13:31:04] |
| Calculus - Posts: 109 |
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Dorian certainaly gives GREAT information. I too have learned a lot from the man. Please keep posting Dorian! And if there's a tranlsation into English for your Setting up SC video (cost E120) I'd be a buyer. |
| [2025-02-03 15:20:52] |
| blt - Posts: 59 |
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... @Calculus hehehe...I am good with RAM Absolutely no need to do anything but will follow yours and Dorian suggestion for another SSD (with Crucial I finally broke spell of Samsung ssd also amazingly good but Crucial killed it with latest one I even have no problem when all 24 cores hitting 5.9 GHz cooling wise Video cards NEVER started spinning its fans (3) in any trading situation (trading is not playing games-never played games in my life) Hope SIERRA CHART will have nothing against me posting here my FB page (no advertising or promotion of any kind) "B Trading Warehouse" scroll down a bit and you can see BLT5900 in its full glory (video; images) I HAVE ZERO LAG IN ANY SITUATION SO FAR (living 3 miles from Aurora Data Center Chicago/Naperville helps a lot) |
| [2025-02-03 15:51:43] |
| User677437 - Posts: 57 |
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when the new timer update rolled out... moderate to heavy load chartbooks/instances experienced light lag to complete stuttering and freezing charts that would need to force shutdown the pc. I have a similar high spec pc as you, but I run about 100 detached charts, for es/nq/cl/bonds/currencies.. The PC was not the problem. Pre and Post timer versions it was night and day difference. Many people rolled back. The duration of the update interval was mostly the problem. - Many people don't like the idea of having slower updating highertimeframe charts that are off by 1-2 seconds ( depends on how big the chartbook is ) - Or you have to move your chart to a standalone instance ( and lose global crosshair functionality) - similar to what SC recommends for DOMS - To be in their own instance ( not many people follow this ) Studies that compile aggregated information over weeks/months need tick aggregation for volume profiles/market profiles this was another big reason why there was problems. Go into the chart settings - performance tab and view how much time it's taking to interact with the chart. Adjust studies. Yeah gpus fans aren't going to spin, trading isn't a heavy load. Just need the resolution output for max amount screens. Glad you like your computer. Dont skimp out on a power protector. Also get to know your circuit / fuse amperage and be cautious of running too many electronics on the same circuit. The power supply will undervolt. |
| [2025-02-03 16:43:40] |
| blt - Posts: 59 |
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... @User677437 Thank you very much for your input My interval is 90-150ms on entry charts going to 1000ms on indexes SIERRA CHART superb coding/programing made it so easy on everything (my CPU barely if ever hitting 5%) and their phenomenal data feeds DENALI/TETON (bloody raw to perfection) doesn't present any burden to my set-up at any burst of data (even having browser open) Correct-I already have surge protection Stay safe good trading (just this much-I love SIERRA CHART...nothing comes close to it; SC SUPPORT is out of this world (I was on Tradestation)) |
| [2025-02-03 17:56:31] |
| User981449 - Posts: 12 |
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@bit please are you using multiple instances or sub instances? Or everything in one Sierra instance?
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| [2025-02-03 18:05:28] |
| blt - Posts: 59 |
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... @User981449 7 active monitors---> 1 main instance + 6 (sub) instances Have to arrange them every time I start trading Didn't want to use any third party "organizer" to memorize positions of instances |
| [2025-02-03 18:52:54] |
| User677437 - Posts: 57 |
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Sierra should remember the location of detached and main program windows. if you are using detached windows, you legit have to use windows power tools and the app called fancy zones to remember zones if your monitor ever auto times off of on you, and then you got a dozen charts on a different screen to drag over and reset them to how they were. When the charts are tiled natively in the main program window you don't have that issue. And can focus on what market you want to trade primary front and center. It's also important to note, on windows you natively have virtual desktop. You can keep SC open on one virtual desktop, and if you want to not look at charts just browse the internet etc, you can do that on virtual desktop 2. Icon should be on the taskbar close to the search box. This is better than having to minimize or close all the windows when you want a break. Also it's important to undertand, that you can have stand alone doms for different markets in the main instance, and those orders will appear on the sub instance chart for that market if you are seperating instances by market. I think this is the preferred method than putting the execution chart in it's own instance, but it losses global cursor crosshair with higher timeframe charts / profiles. Date Time Of Last Edit: 2025-02-03 18:53:11
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| [2025-02-03 19:14:04] |
| blt - Posts: 59 |
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... @677437 Thank you I am familiar with that FZ app Talked to SC support and they told me that inability to remember positions of instances without using any app is on Windows side It doesn't bother me any longer It takes less than 45 sec to open all my instances and position them over 7 monitors |
| [2025-04-10 13:42:43] |
| User456039 - Posts: 24 |
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blt, I could have done with the BLT5900 ver.03 yesterday :) |
| [2025-04-10 20:23:13] |
| Yeager - Posts: 132 |
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Whdb people here talk about the timer upgrade, are they referring to the option to have SC run off the PC clock?or something else? Uograding my i9 12900. Ordered an i9 14900k and gskill ripjaw 6400mhz 39clas 64gb today for my z690 motherboard. |
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