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[2014-03-29 19:25:59]
Mack - Posts: 83
I'm interested what people miss the most in Sierra Chart. I have a few ideas but I'm sure others probably have a better take on it. In the end, the development team off-course decides where the project goes. Still, I'm curious what the community thinks. Maybe some voting would be nice, but I don't how to pull that off with this board. I'll keep a list if there is any interest.


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* Templates / themes (+2)





Date Time Of Last Edit: 2014-04-08 11:43:31
[2014-03-29 19:50:09]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
Unlimited template functionality is already supported just by duplicating a chart configured as you require. Refer to:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=doc/helpdetails20.html
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level

Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation

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[2014-03-29 20:32:29]
Mack - Posts: 83
That does get the job done, but I'm suggesting the HTML/CSS philosophy. Separate data and layout. After using Sierra Chart intensely, this is the thing I missed most by far. MT4 is a horrible program. However, it does do templating extremely well.

It's so simple in MT4.

Right click on any chart, select template. You're done.


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[2014-03-29 20:37:11]
sampater - Posts: 244
+1
[2014-03-30 14:17:49]
Mack - Posts: 83
The default color palette is too restrictive. There is no structure in the way the basic colors are organized, and we cannot change this.

- There is no grey scale.
- There is no light blue.

Editing all custom colors to get them right, takes time. I sometimes run Photoshop in the background and then type in RGB values. I hope some day we have better default colors. Save times, and it'd allow us to create better looking charts instantly.

(See screenshot)

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[2014-03-30 18:41:45]
M5amhan - Posts: 468
just my 2 cents.. i think we should be focusing on the functionality improvements rather than trivial things like colors & display.. i feel like these two ideas here: Chart region could really add value to sierra chart and open up a lot of customization possibilities to users, they have addressed this already in the post but i think they value users input.. would you all like to see either of those ideas in the link?
[2014-03-30 18:59:52]
Mack - Posts: 83
Hey michael,

Interesting stuff. I personally never use this, but I'll add it to the list! With tradingview, you can do a lot of these things. (you'd hide the main chart, add an indicator and move it up). I have noticed that all major charting packages look good. (Bloomberg/MultiCharts/Tradingview). I understand, that SierraChart tends to attract the more technical minded customer. I love everything Sierra Chart. It's extremly versatile and powerful. If I really need to get something special done, I usally can do it with Sierra.
The only thing I really miss, is templates. I like to get the colors right. Recently, I started using Tradingview. And I'll have to admit that it's impressive what an web-app can do. I can make charts that look like they are from Bloomberg. I really like that.

Best,
Mack
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2014-03-30 19:10:04
[2014-04-08 02:12:08]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
(you'd hide the main chart, add an indicator and move it up)
This is already supported. Refer to:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=doc/doc_ChartStudies.html#DisplayAsMainPriceGraph

" Templates" can mean a lot of things. What you are referring to is a color/appearance template. You would be surprised at how many settings a chart actually holds. Colors is only a small subset of them. We tend to suspect that most of our users will use the global color settings to configure the colors as they require and once they are done, they do not really change them much. And if they need to do something special color wise for one or two charts, they can set the colors individually for an individual chart.

And our focus is not really on fancy appearances because many of these kinds of items can hurt performance. Such as transparency.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level

Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation

For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
[2014-04-08 10:27:35]
maxima120 - Posts: 144
And our focus is not really on fancy appearances
+10

thats right. dont give in for the geeks who are bored and are trying to have a little stackoverflow spawn here...

this is trading tool for those who knows what to do with it.
[2014-04-08 11:41:37]
Mack - Posts: 83
Why are templates such a bad idea then?

In fact, Sierra Chart all ready has embraced the general concept. (tool config, study collections). It is just inconsistent to not take the idea further.

I want to quickly switch between:

- CandleSticks / TPO
- Candlesticks / RenkoBars
- BarCharts / Candlesticks
- Black/White background

(dark at night, white during the day)

I'm arguing a fine point here, that seems to get lost in the discussion. I am not asking for "gradients". I'm asking to expand the template system to include everything except the symbol. Chart Settings, Color Layout, Study Settings, everything. At some level, Sierra Chart does all ready accept the fact that templates are a good idea. If they were not, we should drop the "study collection" and the "tool config" features.

Real templates, would open-up a bunch of opportunities and increase ease-of-use.
[2014-04-08 11:58:44]
maxima120 - Posts: 144
yeah you want a luxury yacht decorated with rosewood for 20 bucks.. i got it..
[2014-04-08 13:51:37]
Mack - Posts: 83
" Templates" can mean a lot of things. What you are referring to is a color/appearance template. You would be surprised at how many settings a chart actually holds. Colors is only a small subset of them. We tend to suspect that most of our users will use the global color settings to configure the colors as they require and once they are done, they do not really change them much. And if they need to do something special color wise for one or two charts, they can set the colors individually for an individual chart.

And our focus is not really on fancy appearances because many of these kinds of items can hurt performance. Such as transparency.

I am totally onboard with the fancy appearances stuff. That's not necessary. I also think, that most users don't change these global settings a lot because its not possible to do it easily. The more I think about it, the more I tend to believe that Sierra Chart's approach tends to attract users that don't want these fancy features. That's great, keep the idiots out. Still, I hope that the idea of templates is not totally out-of-bounds. It's not such a crazy idea to improve work-flow a bit, I'd argue.

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