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Date/Time: Sat, 30 Nov 2024 06:33:49 +0000
Can I have two separate overlapping delta by price and volume by price on the same chart?
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| [2022-12-08 22:18:11] |
| User214239 - Posts: 27 |
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https://www.sierrachart.com/image.php?Image=1670537397638.png I'm trying to have two separate volume profiles on a chart, one for the week and a second for the current day, with a delta by price profile for the time period overlapped on each one. I want the week ones to be on the right with the day ones next it on the left. I can figure out how to get the delta profile for the week to overlap the volume profile for the week on the right, but I can't seem to figure out how to get the delta/volume profiles for the day to overlap each other on the left. Is there a way to get the delta and volume profiles on the left to overlap each other while being separate from the weekly stuff on the right? I apologize if this is covered somewhere in the instructions. I've tried going through them before opening this support request and cannot figure out how to do it. Thank you for the help. |
| [2022-12-08 22:55:47] |
| John - SC Support - Posts: 36350 |
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How are you getting the "Delta by Price Profile" that you have? It looks like you are creating a separate profile for those. If that is the case, then that is not what you want to do. Rather, within each volume by price study (i.e. Weekly and Daily) you would set the following: - Bid Volume Ask Volume Coloring Method: Difference of Bid and Ask Volume Coloring This will give you the delta profile within the main profile. Since the delta is typically much smaller, you can use the following items to extend the size of the delta profile within the main profile: - Draw Difference of Bid and Ask Volume Using Percent of Max Bar - Difference of Bid and Ask Volume Coloring Percentage of Maximum Bar And finally, to display the delta in the bars, use the following: - Display Volume in Bars: Ask Volume - Bid Volume (or another option for what you want to see) You will find the information for these various settings at the following link: Volume By Price Study: Volume by Price Input Settings For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2022-12-08 23:44:58] |
| User214239 - Posts: 27 |
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Thank you for getting back to me so quickly. Yes, you're correct, I was creating them as separate profiles. I followed your instructions, and it sort of fixes the issue, but for some reason all of the coloring for the delta in the value area seems to be green even though I have the colors set for the delta to be red for negative and blue for positive delta. Outside of the value area the colors are correct, but in the VA it all seems to be one color (green). Actually it looks like the delta bar that is over the volume profiles POC is purple for some reason too. Is there a way to set it so that all of the delta bars are the blue/red colors that I'm trying to set them at? As a second question, normally I have the ticks per volume bar set to 1 for the normal volume profile and 4 for the delta profile when I have them as separate profiles so that its easier to see the delta. Is there any sort of way to adjust that they're different with the way that you suggested? Otherwise it kind of makes the delta part of the profile a bit unusable if you zoom out at all on something like NQ. Thanks again for the help. Date Time Of Last Edit: 2022-12-09 00:22:48
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| [2022-12-09 13:54:53] |
| John - SC Support - Posts: 36350 |
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Thank you for getting back to me so quickly. Yes, you're correct, I was creating them as separate profiles. I followed your instructions, and it sort of fixes the issue, but for some reason all of the coloring for the delta in the value area seems to be green even though I have the colors set for the delta to be red for negative and blue for positive delta. Outside of the value area the colors are correct, but in the VA it all seems to be one color (green). Actually it looks like the delta bar that is over the volume profiles POC is purple for some reason too. Is there a way to set it so that all of the delta bars are the blue/red colors that I'm trying to set them at?
Please attach your chart so we can take a look as what you are stating should not be occurring in the way you are describing. Follow these instructions: Support Board Posting Information: Providing Chartbook with Only a Single Chart As a second question, normally I have the ticks per volume bar set to 1 for the normal volume profile and 4 for the delta profile when I have them as separate profiles so that its easier to see the delta. Is there any sort of way to adjust that they're different with the way that you suggested? Otherwise it kind of makes the delta part of the profile a bit unusable if you zoom out at all on something like NQ. Thanks again for the help.
There is not a way to have different Ticks per Volume Bar for the primary volume and the Ask/Bid Difference. You would have to set the Ticks per Volume Bar to what you require for both. Or, you would have to do what you were originally trying to do, but as you saw, there is not a way to align to a second profile aligned to the right. For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2022-12-09 17:25:19] |
| User214239 - Posts: 27 |
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Please attach your chart so we can take a look as what you are stating should not be occurring in the way you are describing. Follow these instructions:
Chartbook attached. Fully willing to admit that it could be user error on my part, but I appreciate you looking at it either way. There is not a way to have different Ticks per Volume Bar for the primary volume and the Ask/Bid Difference. You would have to set the Ticks per Volume Bar to what you require for both.
Or, you would have to do what you were originally trying to do, but as you saw, there is not a way to align to a second profile aligned to the right. Yeah I kinda figured that, and pretty much why I was trying to do it the way I was trying. Just thought I'd take a long shot and ask. Could be a good feature update in a future update as I can't imagine I'm the only person that would like to do this sort of thing. Again, I appreciate the help. Please let me know if you need anything else. |
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| [2022-12-09 18:17:39] |
| John - SC Support - Posts: 36350 |
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We think this is the wrong chart, as this has your separate Delta profiles and everything looks fine. We have attached an image of what it looks like for us.
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| [2022-12-09 18:37:28] |
| User214239 - Posts: 27 |
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My apologies, I left them on just because of the conversation we'd been having. I have reuploaded the chart without them. It is the correct chart though because if you look on at the Volume profile on the left you can see the delta bars smaller in it. If you expand the scale of the chart you can see where the delta bars on the left volume profile are red/blue outside of the value area and green inside of it. Again, please let me know if you need anything else from me and thank you again for the quick responses and help.
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| [2022-12-09 18:59:25] |
| John - SC Support - Posts: 36350 |
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We do not see any issues with the colors. Attached is the image of what we see. We expanded the space for the VbP and changed the minimum value for display to 50 so there are more numbers to be seen, but within the Value Area and outside of it are both the same color blue. We do not know why you would be getting the kind of coloring issue you are having. Are you by any chance running with OpenGL enabled with a non-NVidia graphics card? We know there are issues with that combination, although we have not heard of this kind of an issue offhand. For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
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| [2022-12-09 19:35:54] |
| User214239 - Posts: 27 |
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The numbers are not actually where I'm having the issue. Where the colors are different for me is in the bars themselves. I'll attached a picture so that you can see what I mean. The darker grey area on the left volume profile is the value area and you can see that the delta bars inside them in the picture are all green. Or at least for me they are me. And then the lighter grey area to the top is outside of the value area and you can see in the picture that the delta bars are the red/blue. Does that not happen on the bars for you? I am not using OpenGL. I just double checked to make sure that it is not checked.
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| [2022-12-09 19:50:12] |
| John - SC Support - Posts: 36350 |
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That is because you have the option for Highlight Value Area enabled on the Delta profile. If you set that No then the bars will be red/blue.
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| [2022-12-09 20:01:34] |
| User214239 - Posts: 27 |
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Gotcha. I'm noticing that now playing around with it. That's unfortunate. Sort of makes those delta bars useless in that section if you want to have the value area highlighted like that. I guess that could be another good thing to add to the list for a future update. Okay, I'll stop wasting your time. Thank you very much for your help and quick responses. Very much appreciated. Have a good weekend.
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