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Overnight Volume Profile
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| [2022-08-08 15:09:54] |
| Steve Leon - Posts: 312 |
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I have a day, overnight and microcomposite (several days/week) displaying on my chart Today my overnight profile appeared very shortened I played around with a number of study inputs and chart settings but could not get the entire overnight profile. I have set for start time to from start time to end time. with start time set to 18:00 and Ebd Time to 9:29:59 It was working last week I wondered whether this was due to the Sunday night overnight session ? I remember at one time there was a setting for revers session times but i cant find it on the new format ? The other question I have is that for the three profiles mentioned I have Volume Profile Bars Length Relative to all Visible Profiles set to YES for all three profiles The volumes and volume bars seen in the individual profile do not seem to reflect this. For example the volume numbers for my micro composite profile are larger (of course) than for my day profile. The window widths are all set the same at 5. The Volume bars appear larger on the day profile even thought the volumes are less Thank you |
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| [2022-08-08 18:46:06] |
| John - SC Support - Posts: 38678 |
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We really need to get your chart to understand all the pieces. Please make a copy and get us a chartbook with just that one chart in it by following these instructions: Support Board Posting Information: Providing Chartbook with Only a Single Chart For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2022-08-08 21:17:49] |
| Steve Leon - Posts: 312 |
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Here is the chart which i have in subinstance 3; in case that is important Thank you |
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| [2022-08-15 17:01:05] |
| Steve Leon - Posts: 312 |
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just following up on this issue Thank you |
| [2022-08-15 18:13:23] |
| John - SC Support - Posts: 38678 |
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Sorry, we lost track of this thread. Thank you for reminding us. We can not say what occurred with the one overnight profile, as it is a bit late now to look at it. But it does not look like anything was wrong, just the trading was contained with a smaller period than other times. You would have to look at the bars from the same time period and see if they were traded in just that range, which they should have been, given what you are seeing. In terms of Reversed Session Times, there is not a setting for this, it is just the way the session times are entered, which indicates that the session started in the previous day. Therefore when you entered 18:00 to 09:29:59 you were entering reversed session times. The system deals with this automatically, so you do not need to do anything special. With regards to the length of the bars, everything looks fine on the chartbook you sent us. In terms of the image you provided, again, they look fine, but we can not say for sure, as there bars that should be longer either above or below the range of data that is shown in the image. If you collapse the range down so you can see the full amount of all 4 profiles, then you can get a better feel for where the bars are located. For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2022-08-17 13:09:51] |
| Steve Leon - Posts: 312 |
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This morning once again my overnight profile was incomplete Yesterday morning and Monday morning it showed the entire overnight profilI tried to restart and relaod but got same result This chartbook is in subintance #3. Dont know if that may be the issue in terms of the calculation ? Will attach picture Same chartbook as what i previously sent. Do you have any other thoughts ? Thank you |
| [2022-08-17 13:10:52] |
| Steve Leon - Posts: 312 |
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here is attachment
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| [2022-08-17 14:29:21] |
| John - SC Support - Posts: 38678 |
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What exactly is the issue with the image you provided? We are not sure why the two volume profiles are the same, but there does not appear to be anything "missing". Something to keep in mind when using the "Align to Far Right" for the Volume Profiles (hopefully this explains what you are seeing). In order to conserve resources, the system only draws the profiles for the bars that are in view at that time. In addition, the particular profiles that are drawn are stacked on top of each other starting from the far right - this means that the exact location of any particular profile can change depending on what bars are displayed at the time. So the Evening Session profile may not be the second from the right profile every time. The best way to see that your profiles are correct is to scale way out (decrease the bar spacing) so you have all the bars that cover the time periods of all the profiles, which may also require changing the vertical scale. You will then be able to see the profiles stacked as you would expect and you can then ensure that they are covering the periods they are supposed to. For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2022-08-17 16:41:13] |
| Steve Leon - Posts: 312 |
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The profiles are actually drawing more than just the bars in view at present The picture I had sent shows two profiles. The one on the far right is intended to show the day/cash session/nyse start/9:30 am. Because it was before that time it was displaying what should be the overnight session. The overnight profile seems to be "truncated". I experimented with a number of different settings/options and it seemed to give me what i am looking for when i set the 2nd profile for the right to ALL VISIBLE BARS and select the start time and end time that i am looking for. I had been using From Session Start Time to End or One Period from Start Time to End Time. That seemed to work but was occasionally giving me the noted problem with the truncated profile from time to time. I assume i should be using 0 = Number of Periods Back to Reference; for what I am trying to do ? I also assume that i should have Use Different Start Time set to = Yes and then enter Start time of 18:00 for start of overnight session and End Time = 09:29:59. For now the problem seems resolved Any additional insight you can provide is greatly welcome Thank you |
| [2022-08-17 16:59:51] |
| John - SC Support - Posts: 38678 |
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Sorry, it's not that they are only drawing for the visible bars, they are drawing for the period you define, but if the bars are off the top or bottom, then you will not have the profile drawn, as there is no profile to show at that level. We really do not think there is an issue, but it is just a matter of understanding what is being drawn. The main thing to keep in mind is that you will NOT have the same order of the profiles going from right to left, unless all the bars are within view (top to bottom). The thing to do is to compress your scale to ensure that the range of the data is all within view, and you should see all your profiles. Let us know if this is not the case. Here are examples from the chartbook you sent us. First, this is the image of a fairly standard view which only shows 2 profiles: https://www.sierrachart.com/image.php?Image=1660755240416.png Second, this is the image of a compressed view where you can now see all 4 profiles: https://www.sierrachart.com/image.php?Image=1660755476903.png You can see that unless the range of the bars is in view (above/below, not forward/backward), you do not get the profile showing up. For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2022-08-17 19:14:33] |
| Steve Leon - Posts: 312 |
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I do believe there is something wrong and it has to do with the sub instance What I did was i copied the chartbook into my main instance and opened the same chart/chartbook in my main instance. I was able to produce the correct appearing profile in my main instance but not in the sub instance chart/chartbook. Again i have closed and restarted and reloaded the chart/chartbook in the subinstance several times but have not been able to get the profile to display correctly. Again the overnight profile appears truncated in the chart/chartbook that is in the subinstance. I do not believe it appears as though this related to range or the scale range or profiles from right to left. I have manipulated this as yo have said but this is no the problem i am referring to. I can send you more screen shots of what i am seeing if you would like Thank you |
| [2022-08-17 19:58:17] |
| John - SC Support - Posts: 38678 |
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The first thing then is to look and see if there is missing data. Take a look at your overnight session and see if you are missing something and if you are, then go before the missing data and right click and select "Delete and Download Data". Also, check your session times to ensure they are correct and cover the full overnight period. For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2022-08-17 20:11:49] |
| Steve Leon - Posts: 312 |
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My chart settings (session times) are all correct on both my main instance and my sub instance; they both cover the overnight period It does appear as thought there is missing data from the overnight profile in my sub instance but not on my main instance i right clicked on my sub instance screen (where there is missing data) and selected Delete and Download. It said starting at 8-17-22 16:03 which would not cover last nights overnight period ? When i did this it did seem to correct the missing overnight data ? Thank you |
| [2022-08-17 20:15:42] |
| Steve Leon - Posts: 312 |
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Also maybe i should be using my chart DOM in the main instance instead of sub instance 3 And move out the other charts into the other sub instances ? It just seems as though there are a number of issues related to the way the sub instance behaves and manages information ? Thank you |
| [2022-08-17 20:18:05] |
| John - SC Support - Posts: 38678 |
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You really should not have any issues with the sub-instances. If you are, then we need to know about it (which you have been doing for the VbP). In terms of the best setup, refer to our recommendations at the following link: Overview of Trading: Sierra Chart Configuration for Most Low Response Time Trading For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2022-08-19 18:21:23] |
| Steve Leon - Posts: 312 |
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Since 8-17 I have had no issues with data being incomplete for the overnight session. The delete and download did not seem to correct it that day. It definitely has happened on two separate days. Will keep an eye on it Thank you |
| [2022-08-20 19:29:54] |
| Sierra_Chart Engineering - Posts: 18797 |
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If you have any download issues, refer to: Historical Intraday Data (Missing Data / Download Errors / Viewing More Data): Error when Downloading Historical Intraday Data from the Sierra Chart Historical Data Server Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
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