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Date/Time: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 14:25:31 +0000
Invert chart function, wicks on the lower side
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| [2021-10-30 13:45:36] |
| User34124 - Posts: 276 |
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Attached are two 5 minute charts of USDCHF inverted with the 'mutliply bars by -1' study (correct) and inverted via the 'invert prices' checkbox when pressing F5. There is a peculiar niggle with many wicks on the bottom side of the candles, that can be replicated on all timeframes and symbols. Could you kindly get this fixed ASAP? |
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| [2021-10-31 16:20:18] |
| John - SC Support - Posts: 36310 |
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If you can pick one bar and give us the information on the OHLC before and after the inversion, then we can look into what might be occurring. Let us know the symbol, the time of the bar (including Time Zone setting), the time frame of the chart, and the OHLC before and after.
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| [2021-11-01 19:24:47] |
| User34124 - Posts: 276 |
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Attached. Notice some are just shorter wicks, some completely omitted when inverted.
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| [2021-11-02 14:02:24] |
| John - SC Support - Posts: 36310 |
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First, make sure you are using the most recent release. There were some changes awhile ago to help with the issue you are seeing, so we want to make sure that you have those fixes. Second, make sure your Intraday Data Storage Time Unit is set to 1 Tick. If it is set to a value larger than 1 tick, then the problem you are seeing is something that we can not fix. It is just something that is caused by using consolidated data. If you do change your Storage Time Unit, then you would need to re-download all the data to get it at the tick level. For each symbol, select Edit >> Delete all Data and Download. You would just need to do this once per symbol, not per chart. For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2021-11-03 11:37:03] |
| User34124 - Posts: 276 |
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Thank you, I'm sure it will work and will try it, just a shame each file will have to be like 6GB instead 200MB
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2021-11-03 18:14:31
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| [2023-02-04 12:17:13] |
| User34124 - Posts: 276 |
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Could I get your advice on what to do with historical charts? Inverted charts still display this problem, despite the fact that historical data can not be downloaded as tick data, naturally. Therefore I can use daily, intraday, charts, which is fine. But for weekly, there is a discrepancy. The closest I can get are 5-day charts, but these are not true weekly charts? What settings should I use to mimic true weekly charts (intraday)? Then the true weekly charts (base historical data), when inverted, display the same problem as above. Date Time Of Last Edit: 2023-02-07 10:45:21
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| [2023-02-06 11:27:02] |
| User34124 - Posts: 276 |
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Bump sorry
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| [2023-02-10 09:17:01] |
| User34124 - Posts: 276 |
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John did you get to check this
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| [2023-02-15 22:11:30] |
| John - SC Support - Posts: 36310 |
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Sorry it has taken us a bit to get to this. After reading this a few times, we think you are just asking how to setup weekly Intraday bars. To do this, you need to set the following Chart Settings: - Chart Data Type: Intraday Chart Only - Bar Period Type: Days - Minutes - Seconds - Bar Period Value: 7-0-0 - Load Data Limiting Method: Use Date Range - Date Range From: Make sure the starting date is a Sunday to get a Sunday through Saturday week. You will most likely need a Continuous Futures Contract as well, which you probably already have setup. Let us know if you need something more. For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2023-02-16 10:47:26] |
| User34124 - Posts: 276 |
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Thanks John, I expounded as the above must not be clear enough. All data is spot-FX, so should not be a need for continous futures. Intraday 1D vs Historical Daily is fine (fig 1) Intraday 7D vs Historical Weekly is wrong (fig 2) Intraday 5D is wrong also. This doesn't pose a problem until one needs to invert a historical chart. Because historical charts do not invert due to the larger issue raised in this thread, of it not being constructed by tick data. Date Time Of Last Edit: 2023-02-16 10:49:55
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| [2023-02-16 17:19:52] |
| John - SC Support - Posts: 36310 |
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We are not able to reproduce what you are seeing. Please get us that chartbook so we can take a look by following these instructions: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=PostingInformation.php#AttachFile For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2023-02-17 18:58:36] |
| User34124 - Posts: 276 |
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Thanks, please check
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| [2023-02-17 22:25:09] |
| John - SC Support - Posts: 36310 |
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Your Intraday chart is not set to start on a Sunday. On the Intraday Chart you need to specify the Data Limiting by using the Date Range. and enter a Date Range From that is a Sunday. This way you will get the full weeks worth of trades to match up to the Historical data. The charts will not be exactly the same due to how the exchange report daily versus intraday information, but the general look will be close. The image at the following link is what we see when we get the dates corrected for your chartbook: https://www.sierrachart.com/image.php?Image=167667269184.png For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2023-02-18 13:28:04] |
| User34124 - Posts: 276 |
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Thank you. Now that is resolved, may I query how the inverted chart feature gives the same problem, as in earlier posts here on intraday charts, on historical charts? You told me to use tick-data based intraday charts to solve this, but this is not possible on historical? Is it not just easier to recalculate based on OHLC? |
| [2023-03-07 13:17:11] |
| Sierra_Chart Engineering - Posts: 17194 |
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We cannot provide any further help here. If the functionality does not meet your requirements then do not use it and develop your own. You can use ACSIL to create custom studies and custom chart bars and whatever you need. Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing Date Time Of Last Edit: 2023-03-07 13:17:49
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| [2023-03-08 14:21:51] |
| User34124 - Posts: 276 |
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No worries. It's not even help I need. You can't even seem to understand the basic flaw in your own logic.
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| [2023-07-30 16:17:32] |
| Sierra_Chart Engineering - Posts: 17194 |
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It is best that you create your own logic for what you need rather than telling us what you need which we do not even have time to develop anyway. The Invert functionality works exactly as it is documented and it is very straightforward in its design. You can accomplish what you want by developing your own Custom Chart Bars: ACSIL Interface - Custom Chart Bars Just develop what you need. Do not ask us. Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing Date Time Of Last Edit: 2023-07-30 16:18:08
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| [2023-07-31 11:48:48] |
| User34124 - Posts: 276 |
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(Wow, so helpful considering 4 months to reply). As I said, I have a workaround for this issue. I am merely helping you understand you are completely false in your own words " Invert functionality works exactly as it is documented " ^ is COMPLETELY FALSE. CHECK THE HISTORICAL CHARTS!! Simple. They corrupt when inverted BECAUSE they're not based on tick data, as John, your own staff, can vouch for. The above is not an ask for help. It is help for you. Please stop being so logically inconsistent, it is not a good look for developers. You should take pleasure in fixing nuances found by users... duh. Date Time Of Last Edit: 2023-07-31 11:51:23
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