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Switching from AMP with CQG data to Denali

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[2021-01-15 16:53:44]
User696540 - Posts: 28
Hello....please forgive the long message.

I have 2 accounts at AMP using CQG with the free version of SC.
I have 2 instances of SC running...one acct on 1 computer and the 2nd acct
on the 2nd computer. I can only see one acct on each computer. ie the drop down
box doesn't show both accts. My preference would be to be able to be able to switch
accts on each computer.

My cost right is is $11/mo each.

In your opinion, what is my best option to switch to Denali in order to have
access to historical data?

What would my total cost be? I only need CME.

Thanks,
John
[2021-01-15 18:06:02]
John - SC Support - Posts: 38150
If you switch to the Denali Exchange Data Feed and not make any changes to your setup, then the cost for the Denali Exchange Data Feed would be $25.00 USD per month + 2 * Exchange Fees.

It's hard for us to say what the exchange fee will be without additional information, but the item of note is that you will need to pay twice for the exchange fee since you would be getting the data on two different computers at the same time.

Refer to the information here for the Denali Exchange Data Feed:
Denali Exchange Data Feed

And specifically here for information on multiple connections:
Denali Exchange Data Feed: Connections
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If you change your setup as you suggest, to just have one installation and have the 2 accounts accessible from that one installation (as long as both accounts are under the same login information, they should be accessible), then you would just have the $25.00 USD per month + 1 * Exchange Fee.

In this case, you would pay for just 1 exchange fee since you are accessing the data from just 1 computer.

Refer to the information here on multiple trading accounts:
Basic Trading and the Trade Window: Main/C >> Trade Account (Selecting Trade Account for Chart / Trade DOM)
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Another item to be aware of, is that if you switch from CQG to the Sierra Chart Order Routing Service, your cost for the Denali Exchange Data Feed would be $20.00 USD per month (instead of the $25.00 USD per month).

Refer to the information here:
Sierra Chart / Trading Technologies Futures Order Routing Service
For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2021-01-15 18:08:07
[2021-01-15 18:33:35]
User696540 - Posts: 28
Thanks for your very prompt reply.

I"m just a tiny bit confused on the "switch from CQG to the SC Order Routing Service. My understanding
is that if I do that....my TOTAL monthly fees to utilize 2 computers would be $20 + 2 CME exchange fees?
Or is there another fee in addition to the $20?

I'm confused between the Denali exchange fees and SC Order Routing Service fees.

Thanks again!
[2021-01-15 18:59:06]
John - SC Support - Posts: 38150
Sorry. We did not mean to confuse you.

The Sierra Chart Order Routing Service is another option available to you. Often people use the term Denali when they are really referencing the Sierra Chart Order Routing Service, hence we wanted to give you that information in case you were interested. It is not a requirement at all.

But, we do give a discount on the Data Feed pricing if you do use that service. It is not required in order to use the Denali Exchange Data Feed, it is just an incentive.

Therefore, you do have it correct, that if you were to use the Sierra Chart Order Routing Service, your cost for the data feed for 2 computers each running their own version of Sierra Chart would be $20.00 + 2 Exchange Fees.

Just for completeness, there are no other fees for the Data Feed, but the Sierra Chart Order Routing Service does have a $0.10 per side charge for the order routing. This should be very close to what you are already paying.
For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2021-01-18 14:26:13
[2021-01-18 04:08:05]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368

Therefore, you do have it correct, that if you were to use the Sierra Chart Order Routing Service, your cost for 2 computers each running their own version of Sierra Chart would be $20.00 + 2 Exchange Fees.
This is definitely not correct. You only pay for the data feed once. And you will only use one Sierra Chart account. If you want to use CME data on two computers at the same time, then the CME requires that you pay two exchange fees though:
Denali Exchange Data Feed: Connections

So you really should just use one computer. No point in using two computers, that does not make sense.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level

Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation

For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2021-01-18 04:08:44
[2021-01-18 12:21:57]
User696540 - Posts: 28
My reason for using 2 computers is that I have 4 monitors, and neither computer supports 4 monitors.

Thanks.
[2021-03-21 14:11:28]
User696540 - Posts: 28
Hello,

could you please read the above thread and tell me if the cost per month using 2 computers will now increase to based on my not being able to use the "Free" SC AMP Futures option?

In other words....here is what i need to know the monthly price on:

I have 2 accounts at AMP using CQG with the free version of SC.
I have 2 instances of SC running...one acct on 1 computer and the 2nd acct
on the 2nd computer. I need to use 2 computer because each can only handle 2 screens.
I can only see one acct on each computer. ie the drop down
box doesn't show both accts. My preference would be to be able to be able to switch
accts on each computer, but that's not critical.

My cost right is is $11/mo each. And No SC fee because AMP has been subsidizing it.

So what would my total monthly cost be switching from CQG to SC Order Routing Ser on Denali
to be able to accomplish the above?
[2021-03-21 16:17:26]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
My preference would be to be able to be able to switch
accts on each computer, but that's not critical.
This is fully supported at this time with the Sierra Chart Order Routing Service:
Sierra Chart / Trading Technologies Futures Order Routing Service

You will need to switch brokers to another supported broker. They are all mentioned on that page.

You only need one Sierra Chart account since you can use that on two computers at the same time and you can add additional computers, through the Activate Services page for 12 USD per month more.

For Sierra Chart pricing, refer to this page:
Description of Service Packages and Pricing

In your case you would want to use Sierra Chart Service Package 10.

And you need to pay for two exchange fees since that will be required by the exchanges:
Denali Exchange Data Feed: Denali Exchange Data Feed on Two Computers Simultaneously
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level

Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation

For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2021-03-21 16:23:09
[2021-04-01 08:48:08]
opci - Posts: 90
Standard Sierra Chart plus Denali Exchange Data Feed (Service Package 10)

Price: (36 USD/month)or 11 usd?

The Standard Sierra Chart with Denali Exchange Data Feed Service Package includes the same features as the Standard Service Package.

Plus it includes the Denali Exchange Data Feed. Exchange fees are still an extra cost.



hello, i can't get an answer that i will understand about the monthly cost of live data. so i ask:
broker amp subsidized sc platform and I paid 11 usd non pro per month a lot of time only cme and that cqg data, is there a way for me to keep the $ 11 per month cost or will I be forced to shut down the siera chart trading after a long 8 years..because simply I can't pay $ 36 a month because I have a small account..and as far as I read per support board most small retailers are disappointed because the fixed costs climb almost x3 and many will have to close accounts like me .thanks
[2021-04-01 14:58:39]
John - SC Support - Posts: 38150
Your fees would be $36.00 USD per month plus the cost of the exchanges.

Yes, AMP was subsidizing the cost for a long time, but that created a lot of complexity that built up over the years. Therefore, we needed to make this change to have all customers paying the same amounts and have access to all the functionality of the Sierra Chart system.
For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
[2021-04-12 17:34:10]
opci - Posts: 90
I was automatically charged 26 usd from the sierra chart account, it's not my decision. why is it done? I turned off the cme service at the broker and did not activate the package because I do not want to pay 36 usd, I paid 100 uds to the sierrachart account because I thought that non pro traders would be $ 11 cost per month..amp financed the platform for me..so please you to turn off my automatic payment 26 usd and my question number 2. how to return the money from the cs account to the card? and is it possible? i don't want to use the sierra chart anymore. it's too expensive for me
[2021-04-12 20:04:27]
John - SC Support - Posts: 38150
We have set your account to not renew.

We can not refund the $26.00 payment that was already made for your current usage time, as it has already started and been paid for.

We will start an Account Support Ticket for you to refund the remainder of your Services Balance to your card.
For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
[2021-04-13 09:09:09]
opci - Posts: 90
ok thanks, let this month stay charged and i will use the data live and after that i will think about what i want next, thanks john.

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