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| [2019-08-16 11:51:31] |
| User821468 - Posts: 84 |
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In my message board I keep getting the message"Cross reference detected between (charts in different time frames). 1- how do i determine the specific studies creating this cross reference/ and 2- How serious or important is it to eliminate this cross reference. I tried hiding a couple of studies suspected of creating the Cross reference to no avail. Thanks |
| [2019-08-16 16:54:35] |
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Provide a copy of the Message Log by following these instructions: Support Board Posting Information: How to Post Your Message Log (Required In Some Cases) Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2019-08-16 19:51:09] |
| User821468 - Posts: 84 |
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here is copy of my message log on reboot at3:48pm on my copy the cross reference reading appears on the last line of my message log below Reading Internal Order ID file. | 2019-08-16 15:44:53 Reading Trade Orders file. | 2019-08-16 15:44:53 Reading Trade Positions file. | 2019-08-16 15:44:53 Account Balance file. | 2019-08-16 15:44:53 UDPListener (1440). Port 22903 | Listening on UDP port 22903. | 2019-08-16 15:44:54 Software version: 1881 32-bit | 2019-08-16 15:44:54 Enabled for: Advanced Features. | 2019-08-16 15:44:54 Enabled for: Advanced Features 2. | 2019-08-16 15:44:54 Enabled for: Sierra Chart Historical Data Service. | 2019-08-16 15:44:54 Allow Support for Sierra Chart Data Feeds is enabled. | 2019-08-16 15:44:54 Current selected Data/Trading service: TransAct Trading | 2019-08-16 15:44:54 Chart Update Interval: 500 | 2019-08-16 15:44:54 Intraday Data Storage Time Unit: 0 | 2019-08-16 15:44:54 Service username command line set: Pa*** | 2019-08-16 15:44:54 Time Zone: -04:00:00 (EST-05EDT+01,M3.2.0/02:00,M11.1.0/02:00) | 2019-08-16 15:44:54 2019-08-16 15:44:53 Local computer time | 2019-08-16 15:44:54 2019-08-16 19:44:53 Local computer time in UTC | 2019-08-16 15:44:54 2019-08-16 15:44:53 Local computer time in SC Time Zone | 2019-08-16 15:44:54 2019-08-16 19:44:33 Server time in UTC | 2019-08-16 15:44:54 Local computer UTC time and Server UTC time difference: 17 seconds. | 2019-08-16 15:44:54 Program path: C:\SierraChart\SierraChartTransActMA\ | 2019-08-16 15:44:54 Data Files path: C:\SierraChart\SierraChartTransActMA\Data\ | 2019-08-16 15:44:54 OS Version Number: 10.0 | 2019-08-16 15:44:54 Locale Setting: C | 2019-08-16 15:44:54 DLLs: UserContributedStudies.dll, UserContributedStudies_64.dll, VCValueLevels.dll | 2019-08-16 15:44:54 Created the DTC Protocol server. | 2019-08-16 15:44:54 DTC Protocol Server listening on port 11099. | 2019-08-16 15:44:54 Created the DTC Protocol historical data server. | 2019-08-16 15:44:54 HD Server Manager | Listening on port 11098 | 2019-08-16 15:44:54 HTTPS connection ID:1 to www.sierrachart.com:443 for request ID:1 (4) | Creating socket. Using TLS 1.2. | 2019-08-16 15:44:54 Checking for new symbol settings. Requested symbol settings MD5 for service code transact.trading. Request ID: 1. | 2019-08-16 15:44:54 HTTPS connection ID:1 to www.sierrachart.com:443 for request ID:1 (4) | Connecting to IP: 46.4.97.203. | 2019-08-16 15:44:54 Received 5 login tokens. | 2019-08-16 15:44:54 HTTPS connection ID:1 to login.sierrachart.com:443 for request ID:1 (1) | Shutdown started. Waiting for graceful close. | 2019-08-16 15:44:54 HTTPS connection ID:1 to login.sierrachart.com:443 for request ID:1 (1) | Socket gracefully closed by remote side. | 2019-08-16 15:44:54 HTTPS connection ID:1 to login.sierrachart.com:443 for request ID:1 (1) | Closed. | 2019-08-16 15:44:54 HTTPS connection ID:2 to www.sierrachart.com:443 for request ID:2 (2) | Shutdown started. Waiting for graceful close. | 2019-08-16 15:44:54 HTTPS connection ID:2 to www.sierrachart.com:443 for request ID:2 (2) | Socket gracefully closed by remote side. | 2019-08-16 15:44:55 HTTPS connection ID:2 to www.sierrachart.com:443 for request ID:2 (2) | Closed. | 2019-08-16 15:44:55 Symbol settings MD5 received. Request ID: 1. | 2019-08-16 15:44:55 Symbol settings are up-to-date for transact.trading. | 2019-08-16 15:44:55 HTTPS connection ID:1 to www.sierrachart.com:443 for request ID:1 (4) | Shutdown started. Waiting for graceful close. | 2019-08-16 15:44:55 HTTPS connection ID:1 to www.sierrachart.com:443 for request ID:1 (4) | Socket gracefully closed by remote side. | 2019-08-16 15:44:55 HTTPS connection ID:1 to www.sierrachart.com:443 for request ID:1 (4) | Closed. | 2019-08-16 15:44:55 HTTPS connection ID:1 to www.sierrachart.com:443 for request ID:1 (1) | Creating socket. Using TLS 1.2. | 2019-08-16 15:44:56 HTTPS connection ID:1 to www.sierrachart.com:443 for request ID:1 (1) | Connecting to IP: 46.4.97.203. | 2019-08-16 15:44:56 HTTPS connection ID:1 to www.sierrachart.com:443 for request ID:1 (2) | Creating socket. Using TLS 1.2. | 2019-08-16 15:44:56 HTTPS connection ID:1 to www.sierrachart.com:443 for request ID:1 (2) | Connecting to IP: 46.4.97.203. | 2019-08-16 15:44:56 Received Date-time from server. Delay adjusted UTC Date-time: 2019-08-16 19:44:39.855. Round-trip delay: 00:00:00.295 | 2019-08-16 15:44:56 Computer time to server time difference: 00:00:16.636 | 2019-08-16 15:44:56 Error setting System Date-Time. Windows error code 1314: A required privilege is not held by the client. | 2019-08-16 15:44:56 * HTTPS connection ID:1 to www.sierrachart.com:443 for request ID:1 (1) | Shutdown started. Waiting for graceful close. | 2019-08-16 15:44:57 HTTPS connection ID:1 to www.sierrachart.com:443 for request ID:1 (1) | Socket gracefully closed by remote side. | 2019-08-16 15:44:57 HTTPS connection ID:1 to www.sierrachart.com:443 for request ID:1 (1) | Closed. | 2019-08-16 15:44:57 HTTPS connection ID:1 to www.sierrachart.com:443 for request ID:1 (2) | Shutdown started. Waiting for graceful close. | 2019-08-16 15:44:57 HTTPS connection ID:1 to www.sierrachart.com:443 for request ID:1 (2) | Socket gracefully closed by remote side. | 2019-08-16 15:44:57 HTTPS connection ID:1 to www.sierrachart.com:443 for request ID:1 (2) | Closed. | 2019-08-16 15:44:57 Files to Open on Start up | Opening file: V1941-07-8.7-8-19Cht.Cht | 2019-08-16 15:44:57 ESU9 1 Min #3 | Reloading chart. | 2019-08-16 15:45:06 ESU9 5 Min #9 | Reloading chart. | 2019-08-16 15:45:08 ESU9 15 Min #7 | Reloading chart. | 2019-08-16 15:45:08 ESU9 15 Min #7 | Out of order timestamps detected. Chart tool drawings and some chart studies may not function properly. Prior Date Time: 2019-07-19 09:30:00. Next Bar Date Time: 2019-07-19 09:15:00. Filename: ESU9.scid | 2019-08-16 15:45:10 ESU9 15 Min #7 | Out of order timestamps detected. Chart tool drawings and some chart studies may not function properly. Prior Date Time: 2019-07-19 11:30:00. Next Bar Date Time: 2019-07-19 11:15:00. Filename: ESU9.scid | 2019-08-16 15:45:11 Intraday data recording state for symbol ESU9 is set to download 'Pending'. | 2019-08-16 15:45:22 HD Request # 2 | Downloading Intraday chart data for ESU9 to the file ESU9.scid. Service: TransAct.Trading | 2019-08-16 15:45:22 HD Request # 2 | Download start date-time: 2019-08-16 15:43:56.000 | 2019-08-16 15:45:22 HD Request # 2 | Using server: ds4.sierracharts.com port 10149 | 2019-08-16 15:45:22 TransAct Trading | Starting server: C:\SierraChart\SierraChartTransActMA\Transact\TransactToSierraBridge.exe | 2019-08-16 15:45:22 Socket (1) | Creating socket. | 2019-08-16 15:45:22 Socket (1) | Connecting to IP: 192.81.56.146. | 2019-08-16 15:45:22 HD Request # 2 | Setting DTC encoding to Binary VLS | 2019-08-16 15:45:22 HD Request # 2 | Sending historical data logon request message. | 2019-08-16 15:45:22 Created process C:\SierraChart\SierraChartTransActMA\Transact\TransactToSierraBridge.exe. Parameters: /Port:1869. Current folder: C:\SierraChart\SierraChartTransActMA\Transact | 2019-08-16 15:45:23 HD Request # 2 | Requesting Intraday data. Start date-time: 2019-08-16 15:43:56. Record interval: 0. Symbol: ESU9 | 2019-08-16 15:45:23 HD Request # 2 | Historical data for ESU9 is delayed because connection to main data feed is not present. Current data will be received upon connection. | 2019-08-16 15:45:23 Socket (1) | Shutdown started. Waiting for graceful close. | 2019-08-16 15:45:23 Historical data download thread signaled to stop. | 2019-08-16 15:45:23 HD Request # 2 | Received 0 records from 00:00:00 to 00:00:00 (0.0 seconds) and wrote 0 records for ESU9 | 2019-08-16 15:45:23 HD Request # 2 | Completion time: 2s | 2019-08-16 15:45:23 HD Request # 2 | Intraday data download complete for ESU9. Unique request ID: 1 | 2019-08-16 15:45:23 Removed historical data download ID 1 | 2019-08-16 15:45:23 Socket (1) | Socket gracefully closed by remote side. | 2019-08-16 15:45:23 Socket (1) | Closed. | 2019-08-16 15:45:23 TransAct Trading | Bridge process is running. | 2019-08-16 15:45:26 TransAct Trading | Connecting to the server 127.0.0.1. Port 1869 | 2019-08-16 15:45:26 DTC Client socket (1) | Creating socket. | 2019-08-16 15:45:26 DTC Client socket (1) | Connecting to IP: 127.0.0.1. | 2019-08-16 15:45:26 TransAct Trading | Connected to server. | 2019-08-16 15:45:27 TransAct Trading | Starting socket receive thread. | 2019-08-16 15:45:27 TransAct Trading | Setting DTC encoding to Binary | 2019-08-16 15:45:27 TransAct Trading | Sending logon request message. | 2019-08-16 15:45:27 TransAct Trading | Received logon response. | 2019-08-16 15:45:35 TransAct Trading | Server Name: Transact Futures/TransactToSierraBridge/. | 2019-08-16 15:45:35 TransAct Trading | Server protocol version: 4. Client protocol version: 8 | 2019-08-16 15:45:35 TransAct Trading | Successfully connected. Operation Successful. | 2019-08-16 15:45:35 TransAct Trading | Trading is supported. | 2019-08-16 15:45:35 TransAct Trading | Order cancel and replace is supported. | 2019-08-16 15:45:35 TransAct Trading | Connected to data and trading server. | 2019-08-16 15:45:35 TransAct Trading | Starting real-time market data updates for: ESU9. ID: 1 Service code: TransAct.Trading | 2019-08-16 15:45:35 TransAct Trading | Requesting security definition data for: ESU9. ID: 1 | 2019-08-16 15:45:35 Intraday data recording state for symbol ESU9 is set to download 'Pending'. | 2019-08-16 15:45:35 Delaying start of download for ESU9 | 2019-08-16 15:45:35 HD Request # 3 | Downloading Intraday chart data for ESU9 to the file ESU9.scid. Service: TransAct.Trading | 2019-08-16 15:45:41 HD Request # 3 | Download start date-time: 2019-08-16 15:43:56.000 | 2019-08-16 15:45:41 HD Request # 3 | Using server: ds3.sierracharts.com port 10150 | 2019-08-16 15:45:41 Socket (2) | Creating socket. | 2019-08-16 15:45:42 Socket (2) | Connecting to IP: 65.182.172.42. | 2019-08-16 15:45:42 HD Request # 3 | Setting DTC encoding to Binary VLS | 2019-08-16 15:45:42 HD Request # 3 | Sending historical data logon request message. | 2019-08-16 15:45:42 HD Request # 3 | Requesting Intraday data. Start date-time: 2019-08-16 15:43:56. Record interval: 0. Symbol: ESU9 | 2019-08-16 15:45:42 HD Request # 3 | Decompressing data. | 2019-08-16 15:45:42 HD Request # 3 | Receiving Intraday data for ESU9 starting at 2019-08-16 15:43:56 | 2019-08-16 15:45:43 HD Request # 3 | Timestamp of first Intraday data file record written: 2019-08-16 15:43:57 | 2019-08-16 15:45:43 Socket (2) | Shutdown started. Waiting for graceful close. | 2019-08-16 15:45:43 Socket (2) | Socket gracefully closed by remote side. | 2019-08-16 15:45:43 Socket (2) | Closed. | 2019-08-16 15:45:43 Historical data download thread signaled to stop. | 2019-08-16 15:45:43 HD Request # 3 | Received 2207 records from 2019-08-16 15:43:56 to 2019-08-16 15:45:24 (88.0 seconds) and wrote 2136 records for ESU9 | 2019-08-16 15:45:43 Added 430 Time and Sales records to Intraday data file for ESU9 after download. | 2019-08-16 15:45:43 HD Request # 3 | Completion time: 2s | 2019-08-16 15:45:43 HD Request # 3 | Intraday data download complete for ESU9. Unique request ID: 2 | 2019-08-16 15:45:43 Removed historical data download ID 2 | 2019-08-16 15:45:43 Real-time Intraday chart data file updates started for ESU9 | 2019-08-16 15:45:43 Intraday chart data file opened for ESU9 | 2019-08-16 15:45:43 ESU9 15 Min #7 | Out of order timestamps detected. Chart tool drawings and some chart studies may not function properly. Prior Date Time: 2019-08-05 11:30:00. Next Bar Date Time: 2019-08-05 11:15:00. Filename: ESU9.scid | 2019-08-16 15:45:46 Opened cached Intraday file: C:\SierraChart\SierraChartTransActMA\Data\ESU9.scid | 2019-08-16 15:45:47 Chart #7 has tagged chart #9 for full recalculation. Chartbook: V1941-07-8.7-8-19Cht.Cht | 2019-08-16 15:46:28 Chart #7 has tagged chart #9 for full recalculation. Chartbook: V1941-07-8.7-8-19Cht.Cht | 2019-08-16 15:46:28 Chart #7 has tagged chart #9 for full recalculation. Chartbook: V1941-07-8.7-8-19Cht.Cht | 2019-08-16 15:46:28 ESU9 5 Min #9 | Performing a full recalculation because it has been tagged. Chartbook: V1941-07-8.7-8-19Cht.Cht | 2019-08-16 15:46:28 Chart #3 has tagged chart #9 for full recalculation. Chartbook: V1941-07-8.7-8-19Cht.Cht | 2019-08-16 15:46:38 Chart #3 has tagged chart #9 for full recalculation. Chartbook: V1941-07-8.7-8-19Cht.Cht | 2019-08-16 15:46:38 Chart #3 has tagged chart #9 for full recalculation. Chartbook: V1941-07-8.7-8-19Cht.Cht | 2019-08-16 15:46:38 ESU9 5 Min #9 | Performing a full recalculation because it has been tagged. Chartbook: V1941-07-8.7-8-19Cht.Cht | 2019-08-16 15:46:39 Circular chart reference detected. Charts: 3, 9. Chartbook: V1941-07-8.7-8-19Cht.Cht. | 2019-08-16 15:46:40 |
| [2019-08-17 10:33:57] |
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This is the issue: Circular chart reference detected. Charts: 3, 9. Chartbook: V1941-07-8.7-8-19Cht.Cht. | 2019-08-16 15:46:40
For help with this, refer to: High CPU Usage | Inactive User Interface | Poor Performance | Long Time to Load Chart Data | Charts Reloading Often: 30.9 References to Other Charts / Continuous Full Recalculation of Charts (30.9 References to Other Charts / Continuous Full Recalculation of Charts) Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-08-17 10:34:14
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| [2019-08-17 12:32:32] |
| User821468 - Posts: 84 |
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I am aware of this circular reference caused by the ovelayed studies 3 in 9 and 9 in 3. isn't this the whole idea of overlaying studies? I have many studies in 9 (5mt) overlayed in (3 1m) from (9) to oversee what's happening in (9) while predominently monitoring(1), and likewise in (9) Vs (3). So if overlaying studies between time frames inherently causes a circular reference ? are the two actions therefore mutually exclusive?. Since the circular reference does'nt seem to be affecting my overall performance other than some periodic pop up nuisance of the error message, I am willing to put up with this nuisance for the benefits I derive from the overlay function.... Unless you advise otherwise for some unknown reason to me. Kindly advise your thoughts on this issue and on my overall reasoning above Thanks |
| [2019-08-17 17:14:54] |
| User657944 - Posts: 173 |
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Same experience/issue I also use overlay in the same way with benefits althought the continue recalculation is affecting the performance not dramatically on overload CPU but for sure is not light, if you can find a software solution to avoid this it will be great, otherwise I will keep it like it is since on oveerlay study there's more value than the noise created.
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| [2019-08-19 13:23:13] |
| User821468 - Posts: 84 |
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Thanks for your support and concurrence 657944. But I'm still intrrested in hearing SC comments on this issue and thought process
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| [2019-08-19 19:36:58] |
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We have no comments. The documentation is clear about this: High CPU Usage | Inactive User Interface | Poor Performance | Long Time to Load Chart Data | Charts Reloading Often: 30.9 References to Other Charts / Continuous Full Recalculation of Charts (30.9 References to Other Charts / Continuous Full Recalculation of Charts) Some updates were made. Be sure to read it over. Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2019-08-19 20:11:01] |
| User821468 - Posts: 84 |
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I appeara by SC acknowledging the behavior I described that it is normal. Thank you.
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| [2019-08-20 02:20:03] |
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There is a problem that needs to be resolved. This is not normal. If there is continuous full recalculation of charts, as is evidenced by the Message Log messages below, or you have a circular reference, remove the studies that are causing the circular reference from one of the charts or have them refer to another source chart with a timeframe per bar and with the studies that you require, but which does not reference back to the destination chart which is referencing that source chart.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2019-08-20 11:43:14] |
| User821468 - Posts: 84 |
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Noted Thanks.will work on eliminating circular references.
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| [2019-08-28 19:39:05] |
| User821468 - Posts: 84 |
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Still working at removing circular references. Is there a way of pinpointing exactly which study or studies are the culprits?
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| [2019-08-29 05:09:37] |
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Yes of course. Lines like this specifically show which ones: Circular chart reference detected. Charts: 3, 9. Chartbook: V1941-07-8.7-8-19Cht.Cht. Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2019-08-30 04:56:51] |
| User821468 - Posts: 84 |
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I am aware of the circular reference existence between charts 3 and 9. Problem is I have more than 100 studies in each of charts 3 ans 9. and my queation is finding a way of identifying which studies in 3 and 9 that are creating the problem. Thank you |
| [2019-12-05 17:11:01] |
| User821468 - Posts: 84 |
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it would be very helpful if the message log indicated the study numbers(ID)) of the studies causing the circular references in the respective charts
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-12-05 17:19:10
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| [2019-12-15 14:14:59] |
| User821468 - Posts: 84 |
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is this possible to indicate the id's of the studies causing the circular reference?thanks
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| [2019-12-15 23:07:27] |
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We considered this but it is actually involved for us to do. It is not something we can allocate any time to and does add overall complexity. But really it would be all of the studies on a particular chart which are referencing another particular chart. So it would be collectively all of those studies. Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2019-12-17 13:43:19] |
| User821468 - Posts: 84 |
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Thank you but not much of help, I have over 100 studies in each referenced chart. What is the exact definition of " Circular Reference?" is it same study contadicting another in a different time scale or just overlaying a chart in a different time chart. I do have a bunch of those ?, thanks
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-12-17 14:53:06
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