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[User Discussion] - Linux
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| [2020-05-11 17:08:16] |
| ertrader - Posts: 672 |
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Latest setup to address CME data changes: I use to have SC running on two different systems, one as a backup. This is now an issue with CME. I've now installed a total of 3 instances of SC on the same computer. Keep in mind I use an older i7 PC (about 7 years old). Each instance now has separate application and data locations on the same computer. I still use the other PC (Windows 10) as a backup, for testing and SC support examples but do not leave it connected. I really thought my system would not handle the changes regarding performance. However, each installation is working perfectly... even during very fast moving days!! Each SC instance uses between 7-10% CPU so the system "feels" responsive at all time. Chart DOM drawing time is between 6 and 30ms and DOM price updates are smooth. Also, the latest chartbook changes do seem to have helped with performance. Mint Linux 19.3 Linux kernel 5.3.0-51 SC V2102 64 Bit OpenGL Wine 5.8 Development Denali Data with SC/TT routing |
| [2020-05-12 12:49:27] |
| samual sprat - Posts: 343 |
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Hey Guys. I've been running windows again for a few months and want to get Linux up and running again. Few things have changed since I tried it though. Just wondering if there are any tweaks that I still need to make to my study collections/charts or wine etc? For example, I remember before opengl was introduced I needed to not use 'dots' line type or use certain fill types like 'Fill Bottom', instead use 'Rectangle Fill Bottom'. Is that still the case? Only reason I ask is i'm running Kubuntu 20.04 with Wine 5.5 with 440 nvidia drivers and it just feels more sluggish than I remember. Or maybe that's just because windows is more snappy now with the Opengl implementation in sierra One thing of note is the GPU utilisation which is normally around 15-20%, it's now 50-80%: +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | NVIDIA-SMI 440.64 Driver Version: 440.64 CUDA Version: 10.2 | |-------------------------------+----------------------+----------------------+ | GPU Name Persistence-M| Bus-Id Disp.A | Volatile Uncorr. ECC | | Fan Temp Perf Pwr:Usage/Cap| Memory-Usage | GPU-Util Compute M. | |===============================+======================+======================| | 0 GeForce GTX 1070 Off | 00000000:42:00.0 On | N/A | | 54% 60C P0 67W / 220W | 2180MiB / 8110MiB | 80% Default | +-------------------------------+----------------------+----------------------+ +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Processes: GPU Memory | | GPU PID Type Process name Usage | |=============================================================================| | 0 1272 G /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg 972MiB | | 0 1619 G /usr/bin/kwin_x11 365MiB | | 0 1629 G /usr/bin/plasmashell 342MiB | | 0 1671 G /usr/bin/plasma-discover 20MiB | | 0 1990 G ...quest-channel-token=7415782147581433050 38MiB | | 0 2358 G ...ierraChartInstance_4\SierraChart_64.exe 429MiB | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Thanks S Date Time Of Last Edit: 2020-05-12 15:15:32
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| [2020-05-12 17:23:21] |
| ertrader - Posts: 672 |
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I'm not aware of any remaining OpenGl issues. I'm using a low end AMD video card (Radeon HD 7730/8730) and dots line type and fills work (I happen to have both on my screens now). CPU utilization went down but not sure about GPU utilization
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2020-05-12 20:19:54
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| [2020-05-12 21:43:42] |
| AlexPereira - Posts: 197 |
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For example, I remember before opengl was introduced I needed to not use 'dots' line type or use certain fill types like 'Fill Bottom', instead use 'Rectangle Fill Bottom'. Is that still the case?
the dots now aren't an issue, since SC changed its dot implementation. also the problem is "Fill Bottom and Transparent Fill Bottom". I haven't tried them in opengl, i will and then report later. I have an amd, and it runs very well. But that said, I don't have any PC with nvidia video card. Did you tried it with SC on opengl vs non opengl mode ? There are some users here with nvidias, maybe they can help ? |
| [2020-05-12 22:45:02] |
| samual sprat - Posts: 343 |
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Thanks Guys. I'm using Kubuntu, it may just be that KDE is sluggish. I'm gonna try another distro over the weekend, possibly PopOS. Will report back if it's any better
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| [2020-05-12 23:23:16] |
| User75096 - Posts: 48 |
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Here since 4 years manjaro xfcm, it was the first distro I could run Sierra with no problems and it was always faster than gates shit, k7700, Nvidia 1070 two 50'4k, find a distro you become familiar with, I run manjaro at all my computer
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| [2020-05-18 00:35:33] |
| samual sprat - Posts: 343 |
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Hey User75096/Guys. I went for Manjaro and Xfce. Build seems good but i'm having a strange issue when putting SC charts (opengl and non opengl) onto 2 of my 4 monitors. The mouse doesn't respond on these screens at all. I've set up nvidia drivers (440) and have my monitors layed out correctly, not sure what else it could be. Any ideas? Thanks S |
| [2020-05-18 01:28:32] |
| User75096 - Posts: 48 |
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Connect all your 4 monitors, than install manjaro with non free driver,setup the monitors in Nvidia and in manjaro, than wine, I hope this helps
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| [2020-05-18 04:25:10] |
| DevTrader79 - Posts: 44 |
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I am using Dual monitor with Arco Linux 20.4.11 with XFCE . In future I might install LXDE and try to run SC on it. I cannot stand windows 10. if anyday I can't run SC on windows 7.0, I prep for alternate plan by slowly moving to Arco linux . Arco linux came with old wine installed. I uninstalled wine and install wine 5.7. installed latest SC ver 2092 64bit with low end Graphics Radeon 5450 1Gb ddr3 .. Copied the Data folder from windows 7.0 machine except scid files to Linux. I have to tweak few things which is not interpreted in linux properly. Also wine didn't install second USERstudies dll. I have to copy from Windows machine to linux. I have to make few changes in the chart trade settings and chart DOM settings , in Arco linux. I am a price chart trader so nothing complicated in my .cht files. so conversion was pretty much breeze. Nothing major, took an hour, verified in simulated trading before started real future/commodities trading. Everything is working like champ. CPU usage is very nominal. Only 7% memory is used of 16GB. I love SC platform.
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2020-05-18 04:27:35
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| [2020-05-18 08:23:25] |
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This is good to know.
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| [2020-05-18 09:45:15] |
| User75096 - Posts: 48 |
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Here the same and as I wrote I love sc under Linux, it is faster and brighter than under win 10 and if you don't like win for all this reason we know you feel better without ii. Thanks Sierra for your great work to deliver this platform, may one times direkt under Linux
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| [2020-05-18 13:24:27] |
| Mr.Arsov - Posts: 16 |
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Dropping by to say that I installed SC last build as of 18th May 2020 on a fresh install of Linux Mint 19.3 Cinnamon with Wine 4.0. with Nvidia Geforce GTX 850M and I have zero issues for now.
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| [2020-05-30 12:57:31] |
| samual sprat - Posts: 343 |
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Hey Guys. Finally got round to getting sierra working in linux and stuck on an issue. I'm running Manjaro Gnome edition with proprietary nvidia drivers, wine 5.8 and Sierra v2109 with Opengl. I think installed corefonts using winetricks, although it did complain about it being 32bit and my WINEARCH being win64, so not sure if it's working tbh. Also I'm running Sierra from my NTFS windows drive and have not installed sierra directly in linux with wine, this has worked perfectly before in Kubuntu so don't think this is the issue but please let me know Issue is that sierra appears to run fine but occasionally when opening a dialogue box like Chart Settings or Chart Studies sierra crashes with the following error: "The program sierrachart_64.exe has encountered a serious problem and needs to close. This can be caused by a problem in the program or deficiency in Wine. You may want to check the application Database for tips about running this application." Been pulling my hair out this morning, can't find anything on google or sierra forums Any advice? Not sure if a broken/not installed corefonts could cause this, if it could please let me know how to install these correctly for 64 bit. Maybe I've missed a different step or something? Thanks! Sunny Date Time Of Last Edit: 2020-05-30 13:33:44
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| [2020-05-31 00:20:05] |
| AlexPereira - Posts: 197 |
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Been pulling my hair out this morning, can't find anything on google or sierra forums
Well... I never got that problem, and maybe neither did other people. I actually have run SC on linux since first trying it ( it was a major reason for when trying it, sticking with it ( i came from nt.. )) and never had a ChartSettings or ChartStudies window make a crash. Also I'm running Sierra from my NTFS windows drive and have not installed sierra directly in linux with wine, this has worked perfectly before in Kubuntu so don't think this is the issue but please let me know
Don't do this. Stop, really. NTFS, although support is rather good and works, its not performant. Because NTFS isn't an open filesystem, it will never be even near the same performance as SC on ext4/xfs/btrfs. There might also be other hidden/rare issues with using NTFS as the SC filesystem. You can use rsync to keep both windows and linux SC installations in sync. |
| [2020-05-31 23:07:22] |
| samual sprat - Posts: 343 |
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FYI. Getting this error in the log file at time of crash: Loaded depth data records for ESM0-CME 2020-05-29 from 2020-05-29 01:12:09 to 2020-05-29 20:59:54. | 2020-05-31 23:57:16.098 ESM0-CME 1000 Volume #2 | StartDateTimeForLoadingOrderFills: 2020-05-17 23:57:16 | 2020-05-31 23:57:16.494 ESM0-CME 10 Sec #1 | Performing a full recalculation because it has been tagged. Chartbook: LIVE ES 10s.Cht | 2020-05-31 23:57:16.758 ESM0-CME 10 Sec #1 | Performing a full recalculation because it has been tagged. Chartbook: LIVE ES 10s.Cht | 2020-05-31 23:57:47.019 ESM0-CME 10 Sec #1 | Caught an unhandled exception in c_Chart::WindowProc. Message: 32769, wParam: 33758, lParam: 0 | 2020-05-31 23:59:21.230 |
| [2020-06-01 04:58:22] |
| ertrader - Posts: 672 |
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You may want to try a couple things. I've been seeing more CPU exceptions lately too. 1) Remove any unnecessary study dlls from your data directory even if you are not using them. For instance, I removed all dlls except 2 custom dlls I need. I do not use any of the user contributed studies so I even removed UserContributedStudies.dll and UserContributedStudies_64.dll. 2) Try updating to 2113 3) If you do use usercontributed studies, follow these instructions: Notice: Study Exceptions in New Versions and Code Efficiency For me, 1) above helped reduce CPU exceptions when accessing the /analysis/studies menu, even after completing 3). I still do get an unhandled CPU exception when exiting for some odd reason. |
| [2020-06-01 05:27:41] |
| samual sprat - Posts: 343 |
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Awesome idea etrader, thanks. I’ll try that this morning Alex I’ll try a vanilla Sierra install in Linux and see if that helps, thanks bud |
| [2020-06-17 12:29:17] |
| Ackin - Posts: 1865 |
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Hi everyone, please...What is the latest version of Sierrachart that works for Linux? I ask because a lot of users take a library of studies from me and I don't know which version I should currently compile for. I do not use Linux myself, can someone please write the latest known stable and functional version without problems? thanks in advance |
| [2020-06-17 13:23:39] |
| ertrader - Posts: 672 |
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V 2115 has worked the best for me. Usually, the latest works fine but 2120 and 2123 have occasional startup issues for me... Hangs without loading which is something I've not seen before. Correction: V2118 64 Bit with OpenGL Date Time Of Last Edit: 2020-06-17 21:51:36
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| [2020-06-17 13:34:19] |
| Cavalry3162 - Posts: 523 |
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y, starting with build 2120 it doesnt work anymore.. hangs at startup, no log entry and safe mode doesnt work either
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| [2020-06-17 14:00:22] |
| samual sprat - Posts: 343 |
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@Andreas Are you using OpenGL? Got same problem on Arch atm so i'm using windows There are big issues atm for a few people even in windows. See here OpenGL Exception/Stability Issues Date Time Of Last Edit: 2020-06-17 14:00:34
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| [2020-06-17 15:58:34] |
| ticinotrader - Posts: 391 |
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Arch/Wine 5.10/ SC v2123 works fine here. Same for the previous versions. I do not use OpenGL. Only issue I had was with the initial wine 5.10 release, but it was a Wine related problem and downgrading the package fixed it. After come couple of days this was fixed with a newer Wine. |
| [2020-06-17 16:17:26] |
| Cavalry3162 - Posts: 523 |
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@sunnyd no, i wasnt.. but, funny enough, i enabled it, installed the latest pre release (2124 atm.) and now it works... |
| [2020-06-17 16:17:57] |
| Cavalry3162 - Posts: 523 |
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ah, and am also on arch
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2020-06-17 16:18:07
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| [2020-06-17 16:19:57] |
| samual sprat - Posts: 343 |
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Lots of strange stuff going on with SC atm, some have issues others do not! Hope you stay stable bud
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| [2020-06-17 17:32:01] |
| samual sprat - Posts: 343 |
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What platform you moving to?
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