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Profit and loss are incorrect in trade window when using commissions in sim

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[2024-09-09 21:35:27] #1 [Go To First Post]
User715828 - Posts: 61
My profit and loss shows a negative in my trade window when I have use commissions selected. When I look at my profit and loss in trade activity log also while using commissions it shows correctly. When I don't use commissions the trade window P&L is correct and matches what is show in the trade activity log. The only thing I can think of is it is using the wrong commission I set in the ES symbol. Does the Activity log and the Trade Window use a different commission? This happens when I have trade simulation turned on.

[2024-09-09 22:56:26] #2 [Go To First Post]
John - SC Support - Posts: 39362
In order to display commissions on the Trade Activity Log, you need to select "Display Settings" and set the option for "Use Commission" to "Yes". In order to have the commissions showing in the Daily Profit/Loss on the Trade Window, you need to set the option for "Chart >> Chart Settings >> Trading >> Use Symbol Commission Settings in Trade List and Statistics Calculations". Refer to the following: Chart Settings: Use Symbol Commission Setting in Trade List and Statistics Calculations (Chart >> Chart Settings >> Trading menu) It sounds like you have the first set, but not the second. For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing

[2024-09-10 15:47:32] #3 [Go To First Post]
User715828 - Posts: 61
When I set the "Chart >> Chart Settings >> Trading >> Use Symbol Commission Settings in Trade List and Statistics Calculations". the profit and loss are way off. It does not agree with what shows in the Trade activity log. It seems that the symbol commission being used in the trade window is much greater that the commission being used in the Trade activity log. When i set use commission to "No" in both places the profit and loss agree but when I set the use commission to "Yes" in both places the trade window shows a much larger loss than the trade activity log. I am sending 2 images that show the profit and loss in the trade activity log and the trade window. One is with commissions and one is without commissions. You will see that the image without commission are the same except that the trade window is off by a factor of 10. this is another issue that I would like to fix. This image with commissions are totally different and the Trade window loss is much greater making me believe that the commission being used by both windows are different. This is with trade simulation mode turned on.


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[2024-09-10 22:02:58] #4 [Go To First Post]
Sierra_Chart Engineering - Posts: 19285
What is the commission that you have set in Global Settings >> Symbol Settings and for what exact symbol? Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing Date Time Of Last Edit: 2024-09-10 22:03:13

[2024-09-17 13:57:43] #5 [Go To First Post]
User715828 - Posts: 61
i set Round Turn Commission to 2.8 for ES

[2024-09-19 17:14:16] #6 [Go To First Post]
Sierra_Chart Engineering - Posts: 19285
We looked closely into this, and the commission is used identically in a chart as compared to the Trade Activity Log but if you make a change to the commission in Global Symbol Settings the chart is not going to use that until it is reloaded. We resolved that issue. And we tested, using a symbol like ES using Teton which has a different price format, natively from the exchange. Just like Rithmic. Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing Date Time Of Last Edit: 2024-09-19 17:14:41

[2025-03-06 19:07:25] #7 [Go To First Post]
m27trader - Posts: 3
Hello Sierra Chart, Please note that the commissions listed in the Trade Activity Log are calculating incorrect (almost twice the 3.8 per round trip as listed in the Global Settings > Symbol Settings in the Other Settings for "Use Global Round Turn Commission". In addition, the Trade Activity Log show a negative P/L number and the listed NPL in the Trading Window shows a positive number? Also note that the "Use Custom Symbol Setting Values" is checked (also tried unchecked). Also note that "Use Symbol Commission Setting in Trade List and Statistics Calculations is YES (also tried NO). Also note I am siming under Sim1 and using the NQH25_FUT_CME[M] symbol Any additional info to obtain accurate trading stats is greatly appreciated. Thank you.

[2025-03-06 21:23:33] #8 [Go To First Post]
John - SC Support - Posts: 39362
We need to see images of the particular items you are referencing. Follow these instructions to get us images: Support Board Posting Information: Attaching or Posting a Screenshot/Image (Optional) For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing

[2025-03-06 23:21:17] #9 [Go To First Post]
m27trader - Posts: 3
Hello Sierra Charts Please screen shot of the NPL showing $1020 https://www.sierrachart.com/image.php?Image=1741302394640.png Cannot figure out how to print/attach Trade Activity Log files... however, the Profit/Loss (C) is showing -1932.60 in the Trade Activity Log under Trades. In Statistics the Total Commission listed is 2952.60 with 441 Total Trades (commission is set at 3.8, Total Commission should be 1675.80 ?? I have confirmed all settings listed in this message. Please help, thank you. Date Time Of Last Edit: 2025-03-06 23:21:37

[2025-03-07 14:15:15] #10 [Go To First Post]
John - SC Support - Posts: 39362
We really need to see the Trade Activity Log. To get us an image of this, follow the instructions at the following link and at Step #8, you will setup the Trade Activity Log to show what you want us to see and then put the Trade Activity Log on top of the chart (resize it if necessary) - and on the Trade Activity Log select "Window >> Always On Top". Then continue with Step #8 selecting "Chart >> Upload Chart with Overlays": Support Board Posting Information: Attaching or Posting a Screenshot/Image (Optional) For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing

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