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Funded Apex Trading Account

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[2022-08-01 07:02:18]
Pongles - Posts: 2
Hi I have a Funded (PA) Apex Trader Funding account and am trying to use that with Sierra Chart. Ideally, i would like to only use Sierra chart to Chart and have all my trades route through Ninja Trader. I am on package 11 and if what im reading is correct, i need to purchase the Denali Data Feed (11$).

Once i purchase the denali feed, i will need to Connect once a month (following this link Real-Time Exchange Data Feeds Available From Sierra Chart: Connecting Only Once a Month to Trading Account to Support CME Group Exchange Fees) ?

Is this correct?
[2022-08-01 09:40:44]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
Yes this is correct. Our understanding Apex uses Rithmic, so refer to the instructions on this page:
Rithmic Trading Platform Service: Setup Instructions
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level

Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation

For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
[2022-08-01 13:46:52]
Pongles - Posts: 2
Thank you for the quick response! the only thing im worried about is with Apex Trader Funding, i am still connecting to Rithmic Paper Trading - Chicago Area- Non-Aggregated server. Will this cause issue to get live data + historical from Denali?
[2022-08-01 14:48:14]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
No but you do need to connect to your funded trading account once a month to authorize the CME Group data. Information about that is here:
Real-Time Exchange Data Feeds Available From Sierra Chart: Connecting Only Once a Month to Trading Account to Support CME Group Exchange Fees
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level

Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation

For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
[2022-08-18 22:57:09]
nbvoice94 - Posts: 1
- Notice: To continue to receive real-time CME data through the Denali Exchange Data Feed when using the lower-priced CME exchange fees which are enabled on your account, requires that you connect Sierra Chart to your live trading account at least once a month. For instructions, refer to:
Real-Time Exchange Data Feeds Available From Sierra Chart: Connecting Only Once a Month to Trading Account to Support CME Group Exchange Fees

hello i use Apex with rithmic, everything was OK until yerstaday the data was stopped , maybe because my CQG login is disabled ?
please help me because in few days my test terminate and i need to resolve this problem
[2022-08-19 07:33:21]
User877753 - Posts: 152
As far as I understand, Apex (PA) funded account is not a real account : it is a simulation account which is paid.

https://support.apextraderfunding.com/hc/en-us/articles/5443077251611-Are-performance-accounts-live-

"We use live data for performance accounts. Initially they are in SIM but you still get paid the same way this is because many traders may blow a performance account quickly. So this is done to protect the company and you as a customer. One we see consistency we copy the trades via api in a prop account.
Once we see long term consistency you are placed into a live prop account."

That's probably the reason why you connect to Rithmic Paper Trading.

I'm not sure you'll get reduced fee CME data this way, as you could do with a genuine real account with you usual broker.
[2022-08-19 15:11:25]
SC Support - Posts: 1895
Hi User877753, and nbvoice94, APEX Funding is not a Regulated Futures Broker, so an account with them does not meet the CME Group requirement for qualifying as a Non-Professional.

You might consider setting up a Futures Trading Account at one of the Brokers listed in #2 here:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing: Setup Instructions

If you already have a Futures Trading Account then you need to connect to it once a month to verify your Non-Professional status, as it relates to Real-time CME Group Data Exchange Fee through Denali.
Real-Time Exchange Data Feeds Available From Sierra Chart: Connecting Only Once a Month to Trading Account to Support CME Group Exchange Fees
[2023-04-12 06:32:05]
Bobcat X - Posts: 2
Could I use an AMP brokerage account for this purpose instead? Should work as long as there is at least $100 within the account correct?

Or does it have to be one of the two brokerages listed?
[2023-04-12 14:30:26]
SC Support - Posts: 1895
Yes, a Futures Trading Account would qualify you as a Non-Professional (assuming there was not some other reason why you are a Professional)

You would need to re-complete the Market Data Agreements and be sure to include your new AMP Futures Trading Account Information; your "Clearing Firm" will be "AMP Futures" and your "Futures Trading Account Number" is something like "AC123456".
https://www.sierrachart.com/UserControlPanel.php?page=ExchangeAgreements

Then you need to connect Sierra Chart to your AMP Futures Trading Account in order to verify your Non-Professional status, for that AMP can provide you with the CQG WebAPI login credentials and with those in-hand, here are your set up instructions:
CQG Trading Platform Service: Setup Instructions

Also AMP has begun supporting Teton Order Routing, so you could use that to connect your Sierra Chart Account to your AMP Futures Account; AMP Futures can put you on the Teton Order Routing Service without Sierra Chart's intervention; when AMP Futures has added you to the Teton Order Routing Service, your set-up instructions begin with step #5 here:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing: Setup Instructions

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