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Zoom out question.

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[2020-08-05 15:19:10]
Spartan79 - Posts: 54
My zoom out is limited to certain point on all charts. Is there setting I can change to increase how far I can zoom out on the chart or it is something hard coded into sierra?
[2020-08-05 19:54:19]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
We need to exactly know how you are performing the zoom out. What exactly are you doing?
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[2020-08-06 12:38:19]
Spartan79 - Posts: 54
I zoom in and out using the up and down arrows on the keyboard. But even if I drag the time scale with the mouse by holding left button I get the same result. I can only zoom out so much. There's a limit to how far I can zoom out.
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2020-08-06 13:10:52
[2020-08-06 18:23:52]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
But what we are trying to understand is are you wanting to reduce the bar spacing and have the bars overlap.

There is no support for that. We are looking at that possibility of allowing the bars to overlap each other. But how well that would work or not, is not known yet.
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[2020-08-06 19:00:46]
Spartan79 - Posts: 54
Oh. I didn't even think about that. I'm using time based chart without bars and just line on close. So I have 1 sec chart with market depth historical graph study and when I want to zoom out to see bigger picture or what happened before at a certain level. I have to change to 10 sec time interval. Or scroll back the chart, but that way I can't see current price and previous area at the same time.

I'm just used to the way bookmap does it. Now that you said it, I think bookmap combines/ merges candles as you zoom out. That would be nice future to have.

I see what the problem is. Overlaping bars could work.

Thank you.
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2020-08-06 19:42:44
[2021-11-08 01:33:21]
James_Trader - Posts: 3
A feature like his would be really great! Several other software packages allow "infinite" zooming out and it's really useful.
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2021-11-08 01:36:51
[2022-02-04 17:20:48]
User215639 - Posts: 17
Zooming in/out could work like on common photo and / or PDF viewer = based on mouse location / spot on the window of SC and scrolling with mouse holding some key like ctrl and all data - fonts, rows, columns - respectively increase/ decrease 360 degrees around the spot of the mouse indicator / arrow . Doable? Thank You!
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[2022-02-04 18:06:54]
User220914 - Posts: 239
I do not think an infinite zoom out is necessary but sierra chart in its current form does not allow much of a zoom out when dealing with high granularity time frames which increases the work load for a trader to keep up with where levels from say 3 hours ago are without keeping more charts open which all adds up to hogging more resources.

Being able to zoom out and compress the same time fram charts would be a new much sought after and fantastic addition since with the current volatility the markets are moving in such
enormous amounts quickly. again even 3 to 5 x the current zoom out levels would be great.

I do not trade noise that much so using a 1 second chart is not that great for me but lets use it as a starting point for measurement.

How many 1 second bars can we fit into a high def monitor at 1080? lets use this as out base? I am sure you can just use the monitors native resolution and get these same
human eyeballing and measuring answers but i want to see it and learn from actually doing the visual measure.

1. set bar spacing to the lowest possible amount
2. set time to 1 second interval
3. using a 27 inch monitor at 1080 p (1080 + 720 ) = wallah 1800!
4. font sizze or bar width set to smallest
this is what i get max zoom out of 31 minutes and 12 seconds of bars so
31 x 60= 1,860 +12= 1,872 bars is the maximum horizontal that i can display at one time. or roughly 31 minutes of time.

if you go to 2 seconds it should be roughly 62 minutes of time so lets check and see.

it checks out to roughly 60 minutes with some error based on my vision and my stretch on my screen but you can use the 1,872 bars roughly x your time frame to understand how much time you are seeing.
2 seconds = 1872 x 2= 3744/60 (seconds in a minute) = 62.4 minutes
10 seconds x 1872= 18,720/60= 312 minutes / 60 = 5.2 hours. ( this checks out visually)

A fast work around and i hope you have good vision would be to get a 4k monitor with a higehr resolution which give you more pixels to draw on.

so a 1 second on my 4k 27 in max horizontal and it is very small to see is

roughly 3,853 seconds on a 4k monitor. or 1 hour and 4 mintues. again there is error due to fonts and alignments and my number of zeros on my scale size etc. so take knwoing ltos of errors.
again i am not one who understands monitor resolution all that well so im sure if you know the resolution then that is the max bar displat assuming sierra lets you get down to one pizxel but then you may run into pixel widths or dots etc but im speaking out of my league.

Basically from what i see a 4k monitor will give you a little over 2x as many 1 second bars or 64 minutes worth of 1 second chart without a scroll.

Hope this was helpful in some way or form. ha.

anyway allowing some overlap or whatever some other platforms due to compress an entire day of 30 second charts into any window size i create on my screens would be really nice added feature.
[2022-02-04 19:27:47]
User215639 - Posts: 17
yes, we could let traders to decide which level, how and when they want to zoom in / out. This moment I havent found the possibility to fast zooming on special / interested area of the chart / any other window of data/info ... have to make 2 sessions of scrolling = one vertical + one horizontal ...
[2022-03-16 16:39:54]
User921987 - Posts: 236
I also have found this thing a bit problem: Zoom Out is limited and you will reach the limit quick. To get around this I have to keep open additional charts OR change the bar size on the fly which is a very slow thing to do...

It would be a very nice feature if the user could decide how far and by what steps the zoom out will work.
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2022-03-16 16:40:30
[2024-03-06 20:25:43]
User346098 - Posts: 40
Yes, having zoomout until bars overlap completly is a sought feature, I don't want to compare SC to Interactive Brokers, but IB's new "Advanced Chart" on their TWS has this ability you can get alot more data cranked up on the screen

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