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[2014-08-18 23:07:43]
User67365 - Posts: 10
I am not quite getting the hang of setting a triggered step trailing stop on the chart trading DOM. Example I set a buy stop at 100, and set an attached order with a stop loss at 10 ticks in case the order goes against me, a Trig offset at 4 ticks and a Trail offset at 6 ticks. However when the trade is opened there is no stop loss indicated on the chart only the entry price. What happens if the trade goes against me more than 10 ticks will it not stop out if there is no S/L indicated on the chart. I quite confused with setting up a trailing stop.
Thank you
[2014-08-19 09:26:54]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
After submitting the main order, do you see the Trailing Stop order listed in the Trade >> Trade Orders and Positions >> Orders tab?

Have you enabled Use Attached Orders on the Trade Window for the Trade DOM?
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[2014-08-19 17:54:52]
User67365 - Posts: 10
I am using the chart trade DOM and have enabled Use Attached orders. In the stop I have entered a price 6 ticks below my entry price and a Trigger 4 ticks above the entry price, eg NQ Entered at 4034.25 set my stop at 4032.50 and my Trigger at 4035.25. There is only one order showing on the Orders window, which I presume is my entry order. No price is given. I am using the Trade Window which is on the chart.
[2014-08-19 18:03:35]
User67365 - Posts: 10
PS in the Targets Window I have set my Stop Offset at 15 my Trigger offset at 4 and my Trail offset at 6. What I want to do is enter a trade then have an Initial Stop Loss at 10 ticks with a Trailing stop Triggering when my trade has move 4 ticks into profit and the trailing stop being triggered now and moving up 6 ticks. How do I set these parameters?

Regards
Chris
[2014-08-20 03:22:22]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
If you have Use Attached Orders checked, and you have a Stop order on the Targets tab of the Trade Window, then it will be attached. There should not be any problem with this.

Make sure you have Support Scale In disabled on the Trade Window Menu. This is explained here:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/doc_AttachedOrders.html#ScalingIn

What we need you to do is submit an order again with Use Attached Orders and your Stop order defined on the Targets tab of the Trade Window and then provide us all of the lines in the Trade Activity Log for these orders by following these instructions:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/doc_TradeActivityLog.php#TradeActivityLogToSupport


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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2014-08-25 22:23:01
[2014-08-25 21:27:10]
User67365 - Posts: 10
Herewith the trade log for today where I tried different combinations to get a step trailing stop
ActivityType  DateTime  Symbol  OrderActionSource  InternalOrderID  ServiceOrderID  OrderType  Quantity  BuySell  Price  Price2  OrderStatus  FillPrice  FilledQuantity  TradeAccount  OpenClose  ParentInternalOrderID  PositionQuantity  FillExecutionServiceID
Order  2014-08-25 00:32:20.000    Connected to server                Unspecified      None        
Order  2014-08-25 06:56:39.000    Connected to server                Unspecified      None        
Order  2014-08-25 07:07:21.000  TFU4  TFU4 0.4 Range #4 | User order entry | Last: 1167.4. Attached Order  17283    Triggered Trail Stop    Sell  1167.3    Pending Child      [Sim]101342  Close  17282  2  
Order  2014-08-25 07:07:21.001  TFU4  TFU4 0.4 Range #4 | User order entry | Last: 1167.4  17282    Stop  1  Buy  1167.9    Order Sent      [Sim]101342  Open    2  
Order  2014-08-25 07:07:22.000  TFU4  TransAct Trading order report (New)  17282  2731189  Stop  1  Buy  1167.9    Open      [Sim]101342  Open    2  
Order  2014-08-25 07:08:08.000  TFU4  Canceling all orders for symbol and account. Flatten/Reverse.  17283    Triggered Trail Stop    Sell  1167.3    Pending Cancel      [Sim]101342  Close  17282  2  
Order  2014-08-25 07:08:08.001  TFU4  Canceling all orders for symbol and account. Flatten/Reverse.  17283    Triggered Trail Stop    Sell  1167.3    Canceled      [Sim]101342  Close  17282  2  
Order  2014-08-25 07:08:08.002  TFU4  Canceling all orders for symbol and account. Flatten/Reverse.  17282  2731189  Stop  1  Buy  1167.9    Pending Cancel      [Sim]101342  Open    2  
Order  2014-08-25 07:08:08.003  TFU4  TFU4 0.4 Range #4 | User order entry. Flatten&Cancel | Last: 1167.1  17284    Market  2  Sell      Order Sent      [Sim]101342  Close    2  
Order  2014-08-25 07:08:08.004  TFU4  TransAct Trading order report (Canceled)  17282  2731189  Stop  1  Buy  1167.9    Canceled      [Sim]101342  Open    2  
Order  2014-08-25 07:08:08.005  TFU4  TransAct Trading order report (New)  17284  2731197  Market  2  Sell      Open      [Sim]101342  Close    2  
Order  2014-08-25 07:08:09.000  TFU4  TransAct Trading order report (Filled). Exchange ID: TAExchangeSim-2731197  17284  2731197  Market  2  Sell      Filled  1167.1  2  [Sim]101342  Close    2  
Fill  2014-08-25 07:08:09.001  TFU4  TransAct Trading order report (Filled). Exchange ID: TAExchangeSim-2731197  17284  2731197  Market  2  Sell      Filled  1167.1  2  [Sim]101342  Close      1943958
Order  2014-08-25 07:15:02.000  TFU4  TFU4 233 Trades #6 | User order entry | Last: 1166.7001  17285    Stop  1  Buy  1167.9    Order Sent      [Sim]101342  Open      
Order  2014-08-25 07:15:02.001  TFU4  TransAct Trading order report (New)  17285  2731295  Stop  1  Buy  1167.9    Open      [Sim]101342  Open      
Order  2014-08-25 07:18:59.000  TFU4  TFU4 0.4 Range #4 | User order cancel  17285  2731295  Stop  1  Buy  1167.9    Pending Cancel      [Sim]101342  Open      
Order  2014-08-25 07:18:59.001  TFU4  TransAct Trading order report (Canceled)  17285  2731295  Stop  1  Buy  1167.9    Canceled      [Sim]101342  Open      
Order  2014-08-25 07:20:25.000  TFU4  TFU4 233 Trades #6 | User order entry | Last: 1167.2001  17286    Stop  1  Buy  1167.6    Order Sent      [Sim]101342  Open      
Order  2014-08-25 07:20:34.000  TFU4  TransAct Trading order report (New)  17286  2731364  Stop  1  Buy  1167.6    Open      [Sim]101342  Open      
Order  2014-08-25 07:20:40.000  TFU4  TransAct Trading order report (Filled). Exchange ID: TAExchangeSim-2731364  17286  2731364  Stop  1  Buy  1167.6    Filled  1167.6  1  [Sim]101342  Open      
Fill  2014-08-25 07:20:40.001  TFU4  TransAct Trading order report (Filled). Exchange ID: TAExchangeSim-2731364  17286  2731364  Stop  1  Buy  1167.6    Filled  1167.6  1  [Sim]101342  Open    1  1944052
Order  2014-08-25 07:28:44.000  TFU4  TFU4 0.4 Range #4 | User order entry | Last: 1167.5. Attached Order  17288    Trailing Stop    Sell  1167.1    Pending Child      [Sim]101342  Close  17287  1  
Order  2014-08-25 07:28:44.001  TFU4  TFU4 0.4 Range #4 | User order entry | Last: 1167.5  17287    Stop  1  Buy  1167.7    Order Sent      [Sim]101342  Open    1  
Order  2014-08-25 07:28:44.002  TFU4  TransAct Trading order report (New)  17287  2731557  Stop  1  Buy  1167.7    Open      [Sim]101342  Open    1  
Order  2014-08-25 07:28:54.000  TFU4  TransAct Trading order report (Filled). Exchange ID: TAExchangeSim-2731557  17287  2731557  Stop  1  Buy  1167.7    Filled  1167.7  1  [Sim]101342  Open    1  
Fill  2014-08-25 07:28:54.001  TFU4  TransAct Trading order report (Filled). Exchange ID: TAExchangeSim-2731557  17287  2731557  Stop  1  Buy  1167.7    Filled  1167.7  1  [Sim]101342  Open    2  1944170
Order  2014-08-25 07:28:54.002  TFU4  Auto-sent child from parent fill  17288    Trailing Stop  1  Sell  1167.1    Order Sent      [Sim]101342  Close  17287  2  
Order  2014-08-25 07:28:54.003  TFU4  TransAct Trading order report (New)  17288  2731561  Trailing Stop  1  Sell  1167.1    Open      [Sim]101342  Close  17287  2  
Order  2014-08-25 07:29:06.000  TFU4  Auto trail order modification. Trigger price: 1167.800017  17288  2731561  Trailing Stop  1  Sell  1167.1    Pending Modify      [Sim]101342  Close  17287  2  
Order  2014-08-25 07:29:06.001  TFU4  TransAct Trading order report (Cancel/Replace complete)  17288  2731565  Trailing Stop  1  Sell  1167.2    Open      [Sim]101342  Close  17287  2  
Order  2014-08-25 07:29:09.000  TFU4  Auto trail order modification. Trigger price: 1167.900017  17288  2731565  Trailing Stop  1  Sell  1167.2    Pending Modify      [Sim]101342  Close  17287  2  
Order  2014-08-25 07:29:09.001  TFU4  TransAct Trading order report (Cancel/Replace complete)  17288  2731566  Trailing Stop  1  Sell  1167.3    Open      [Sim]101342  Close  17287  2  
Order  2014-08-25 07:29:12.000  TFU4  Auto trail order modification. Trigger price: 1168.000017  17288  2731566  Trailing Stop  1  Sell  1167.3    Pending Modify      [Sim]101342  Close  17287  2  
Order  2014-08-25 07:29:12.001  TFU4  TransAct Trading order report (Cancel/Replace complete)  17288  2731567  Trailing Stop  1  Sell  1167.4    Open      [Sim]101342  Close  17287  2  
Order  2014-08-25 07:29:57.000  TFU4  Auto trail order modification. Trigger price: 1168.100017  17288  2731567  Trailing Stop  1  Sell  1167.4    Pending Modify      [Sim]101342  Close  17287  2  
Order  2014-08-25 07:29:57.001  TFU4  TransAct Trading order report (Cancel/Replace complete)  17288  2731578  Trailing Stop  1  Sell  1167.5    Open      [Sim]101342  Close  17287  2  
Order  2014-08-25 07:29:58.000  TFU4  Auto trail order modification. Trigger price: 1168.200017  17288  2731578  Trailing Stop  1  Sell  1167.5    Pending Modify      [Sim]101342  Close  17287  2  
Order  2014-08-25 07:29:58.001  TFU4  TransAct Trading order report (Cancel/Replace complete)  17288  2731580  Trailing Stop  1  Sell  1167.6    Open      [Sim]101342  Close  17287  2  
Order  2014-08-25 07:30:00.000  TFU4  Auto trail order modification. Trigger price: 1168.300017  17288  2731580  Trailing Stop  1  Sell  1167.6    Pending Modify      [Sim]101342  Close  17287  2  
Order  2014-08-25 07:30:00.001  TFU4  TransAct Trading order report (Cancel/Replace complete)  17288  2731582  Trailing Stop  1  Sell  1167.7    Open      [Sim]101342  Close  17287  2  
Order  2014-08-25 07:31:28.000  TFU4  TransAct Trading order report (Filled). Exchange ID: TAExchangeSim-2731582  17288  2731582  Trailing Stop  1  Sell  1167.7    Filled  1167.7  1  [Sim]101342  Close  17287  2  
Fill  2014-08-25 07:31:28.001  TFU4  TransAct Trading order report (Filled). Exchange ID: TAExchangeSim-2731582  17288  2731582  Trailing Stop  1  Sell  1167.7    Filled  1167.7  1  [Sim]101342  Close    1  1944199
Order  2014-08-25 07:32:37.000  TFU4  TFU4 0.4 Range #4 | User order entry | Last: 1168.2001. Attached Order  17290    Triggered Trail Stop    Sell  1167.2    Pending Child      [Sim]101342  Close  17289  1  
Order  2014-08-25 07:32:37.001  TFU4  TFU4 0.4 Range #4 | User order entry | Last: 1168.2001  17289    Stop  1  Buy  1167.8    Order Sent      [Sim]101342  Open    1  
Order  2014-08-25 07:32:38.000  TFU4  TransAct Trading order report (Order reject). Info: Failed to Place Order  17289  2731623  Stop  1  Buy  1167.8    Error      [Sim]101342  Open    1  
Order  2014-08-25 07:32:38.001  TFU4  Canceling child orders of internal order ID 17289  17290    Triggered Trail Stop    Sell  1167.2    Pending Cancel      [Sim]101342  Close  17289  1  
Order  2014-08-25 07:32:38.002  TFU4  Canceling child orders of internal order ID 17289  17290    Triggered Trail Stop    Sell  1167.2    Canceled      [Sim]101342  Close  17289  1  
Order  2014-08-25 07:32:39.000  TFU4  TransAct Trading order report (Filled). Exchange ID: TAExchangeSim-2731623  17289  2731623  Stop  1  Buy  1167.8    Filled  1168.3  1  [Sim]101342  Open    1  
Fill  2014-08-25 07:32:39.001  TFU4  TransAct Trading order report (Filled). Exchange ID: TAExchangeSim-2731623  17289  2731623  Stop  1  Buy  1167.8    Filled  1168.3  1  [Sim]101342  Open    2  1944204
Order  2014-08-25 07:32:39.002  TFU4  Order reactivated  17290    Triggered Trail Stop  1  Sell  1167.2    Order Sent      [Sim]101342  Close  17289  2  
Order  2014-08-25 07:32:39.003  TFU4  TransAct Trading order report (New)  17290  2731624  Triggered Trail Stop  1  Sell  1167.2    Open      [Sim]101342  Close  17289  2  
Order  2014-08-25 07:32:39.004  TFU4  Auto trail order modification. Trigger price: 1168.300017  17290  2731624  Triggered Trail Stop  1  Sell  1167.2    Pending Modify      [Sim]101342  Close  17289  2  
Order  2014-08-25 07:32:40.000  TFU4  TransAct Trading order report (Cancel/Replace complete)  17290  2731625  Triggered Trail Stop  1  Sell  1167.9    Open      [Sim]101342  Close  17289  2  
Order  2014-08-25 07:33:13.000  TFU4  TransAct Trading order report (Filled). Exchange ID: TAExchangeSim-2731625  17290  2731625  Triggered Trail Stop  1  Sell  1167.9    Filled  1167.9  1  [Sim]101342  Close  17289  2  
Fill  2014-08-25 07:33:13.001  TFU4  TransAct Trading order report (Filled). Exchange ID: TAExchangeSim-2731625  17290  2731625  Triggered Trail Stop  1  Sell  1167.9    Filled  1167.9  1  [Sim]101342  Close    1  1944211
Order  2014-08-25 07:51:42.000  TFU4  TFU4 0.4 Range #4 | User order entry. Flatten&Cancel | Last: 1169.4  17292    Market  1  Sell      Order Sent      [Sim]101342  Close    1  
Order  2014-08-25 07:51:42.001  TFU4  TransAct Trading order report (New)  17292  2732025  Market  1  Sell      Open      [Sim]101342  Close    1  
Order  2014-08-25 07:51:42.002  TFU4  TransAct Trading order report (Filled). Exchange ID: TAExchangeSim-2732025  17292  2732025  Market  1  Sell      Filled  1169.3  1  [Sim]101342  Close    1  
Fill  2014-08-25 07:51:42.003  TFU4  TransAct Trading order report (Filled). Exchange ID: TAExchangeSim-2732025  17292  2732025  Market  1  Sell      Filled  1169.3  1  [Sim]101342  Close      1944484
Order  2014-08-25 12:28:21.000  TFU4  TFU4 0.4 Range #4 | User order entry | Last: 1163.4. Attached Order  17295    Step Trailing Stop    Sell  1162.6    Pending Child      [Sim]101342  Close  17294    
Order  2014-08-25 12:28:21.001  TFU4  TFU4 0.4 Range #4 | User order entry | Last: 1163.4  17294    Limit  1  Buy  1163.2    Order Sent      [Sim]101342  Open      
Order  2014-08-25 12:28:21.002  TFU4  TransAct Trading order report (New)  17294  2733611  Limit  1  Buy  1163.2    Open      [Sim]101342  Open      
Order  2014-08-25 12:28:27.000  TFU4  TransAct Trading order report (Filled). Exchange ID: TAExchangeSim-2733611  17294  2733611  Limit  1  Buy  1163.2    Filled  1163.2  1  [Sim]101342  Open      
Fill  2014-08-25 12:28:27.001  TFU4  TransAct Trading order report (Filled). Exchange ID: TAExchangeSim-2733611  17294  2733611  Limit  1  Buy  1163.2    Filled  1163.2  1  [Sim]101342  Open    1  1945609
Order  2014-08-25 12:28:28.000  TFU4  Auto-sent child from parent fill  17295    Step Trailing Stop  1  Sell  1162.6    Order Sent      [Sim]101342  Close  17294  1  
Order  2014-08-25 12:28:28.001  TFU4  TransAct Trading order report (New)  17295  2733612  Step Trailing Stop  1  Sell  1162.6    Open      [Sim]101342  Close  17294  1  
Order  2014-08-25 12:28:52.000  TFU4  Auto trail order modification. Trigger price: 1163.500017  17295  2733612  Step Trailing Stop  1  Sell  1162.6    Pending Modify      [Sim]101342  Close  17294  1  
Order  2014-08-25 12:28:52.001  TFU4  TransAct Trading order report (Cancel/Replace complete)  17295  2733613  Step Trailing Stop  1  Sell  1162.9    Open      [Sim]101342  Close  17294  1  
Order  2014-08-25 12:30:07.000  TFU4  TransAct Trading order report (Filled). Exchange ID: TAExchangeSim-2733613  17295  2733613  Step Trailing Stop  1  Sell  1162.9    Filled  1162.9  1  [Sim]101342  Close  17294  1  
Fill  2014-08-25 12:30:07.001  TFU4  TransAct Trading order report (Filled). Exchange ID: TAExchangeSim-2733613  17295  2733613  Step Trailing Stop  1  Sell  1162.9    Filled  1162.9  1  [Sim]101342  Close      1945612

[2014-08-25 21:28:21]
User67365 - Posts: 10
PS you will note that some orders were filled but these were without the trailing stop as it would not activate.
[2014-08-25 22:27:32]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
Is it your intention to enter the order with the Stop order?

We examined these two orders at the beginning:

Order 2014-08-25 07:07:21.000 TFU4 TFU4 0.4 Range #4 | User order entry | Last: 1167.4. Attached Order 17283 Triggered Trail Stop Sell 1167.3 Pending Child [Sim]101342 Close 17282 2
Order 2014-08-25 07:07:21.001 TFU4 TFU4 0.4 Range #4 | User order entry | Last: 1167.4 17282 Stop 1 Buy 1167.9 Order Sent [Sim]101342 Open 2


The parent order never filled. So the trailing stop obviously never became active.

And when you entered these two orders, you already had a position of 2.

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[2014-08-26 17:19:31]
User67365 - Posts: 10
I have sent a number of messages regarding Triggered Trailing Step Stop or any Trail Stop activated from the Chart Trade Mode, but have not received any helpful information. I am sending two trade logs which have not properly activated. Can you please show me how to do it correctly. This is what I have done.
On the chart DOM in the main menu I have selected "Triggered Step Trail Stop". In the Stop I have indicated a stop 10 ticks from my proposed entry (presumably a Stop Loss) and in the Trig.Price I have indicated a trigger 3 ticks positive from my proposed entry. I have selected "Use Attached Orders".
In the Targets Menu I have selected Stop: Triggered Step Trail Stop. In the Stop Offset I selected 10, in the Trig. Offset 3 and the Trail Offset 6 as I want my trailing stop to follow the price by 6 ticks.
Now when I placed the trade in the confirmation window there was no indication of the Trailing orders only of the primary entry order. Shouldn't the attached orders also show up on the confirmation window.
Attached is the Trade Activity Log of these orders.

ActivityType  DateTime  Symbol  OrderActionSource  InternalOrderID  ServiceOrderID  OrderType  Quantity  BuySell  Price  Price2  OrderStatus  FillPrice  FilledQuantity  TradeAccount  OpenClose  ParentInternalOrderID  PositionQuantity  FillExecutionServiceID
Order  2014-08-26 10:00:31.002  TFU4  TransAct Trading order report (Filled). Exchange ID: TAExchangeSim-2739240  17314  2739240  Market  1  Sell      Filled  1171.7  1  [Sim]101342  Close    1  
Fill  2014-08-26 10:00:31.003  TFU4  TransAct Trading order report (Filled). Exchange ID: TAExchangeSim-2739240  17314  2739240  Market  1  Sell      Filled  1171.7  1  [Sim]101342  Close      1949979
Order  2014-08-26 10:00:58.000  TFU4  TFU4 210 Trades #3 | User order entry | Last: 1171.8  17315    Stop  1  Buy  1172.1    Order Sent      [Sim]101342  Open      
Order  2014-08-26 10:00:58.001  TFU4  TransAct Trading order report (New)  17315  2739245  Stop  1  Buy  1172.1    Open      [Sim]101342  Open      
Order  2014-08-26 10:01:46.000  TFU4  TFU4 210 Trades #3 | User order modification  17315  2739245  Stop  1  Buy  1172.1    Pending Modify      [Sim]101342  Open      
Order  2014-08-26 10:01:46.001  TFU4  TransAct Trading order report (Cancel/Replace complete)  17315  2739253  Stop  1  Buy  1172.0    Open      [Sim]101342  Open      
Order  2014-08-26 10:06:48.000  TFU4  TransAct Trading order report (Filled). Exchange ID: TAExchangeSim-2739253  17315  2739253  Stop  1  Buy  1172.0    Filled  1172.0  1  [Sim]101342  Open      
Fill  2014-08-26 10:06:48.001  TFU4  TransAct Trading order report (Filled). Exchange ID: TAExchangeSim-2739253  17315  2739253  Stop  1  Buy  1172.0    Filled  1172.0  1  [Sim]101342  Open    1  1950005
Please indicate to me how to set up Trialing Stops!!

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