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Date/Time: Tue, 22 Apr 2025 18:22:21 +0000
[User Discussion] - Artificial Intelligence on Sierra Chart???
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| [2023-06-06 19:43:55] |
| User429065 - Posts: 128 |
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Is SC doing anything to support artificial intelligence in any way? For example; Integrate (API) "Trade-Ideas AI Alerts" into the SC platform. or an internal SC AI machine learning study that creates entry/exit algorithms based on an existing methodology? I've developed a very profitable methodology here and would like to see how AI can make it better. Any suggestions would be very appreciated!
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2023-06-08 07:52:20
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| [2023-06-06 20:23:01] |
| Tony - Posts: 565 |
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Without giving away your secret, what existing tools/graphs/studies are required in your methodology?
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| [2023-06-06 21:06:50] |
| User429065 - Posts: 128 |
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The methodology is called Trendex. All I can share is it's based on a proprietary Renko multi-time frame algorithm. You'll be able to lease it from the SC 3rd party store in the next several weeks.
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2023-06-06 21:17:38
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| [2023-06-07 00:47:31] |
| j4ytr4der_ - Posts: 946 |
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What "SC 3rd party store"?
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| [2023-06-07 04:04:23] |
| User429065 - Posts: 128 |
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Sierra Chart 3rd Party Custom Study Store https://www.sierrachart.com/UserControlPanel.php?page=StudyStore Date Time Of Last Edit: 2023-06-07 04:05:23
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| [2023-06-07 13:20:48] |
| j4ytr4der_ - Posts: 946 |
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Wow I had no idea that even existed. SC needs a marketing department lol
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| [2023-06-07 16:37:00] |
| User429065 - Posts: 128 |
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Yes, they do! Hopefully, everyone will see the link here!
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2023-06-07 17:04:19
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| [2024-12-11 15:01:37] |
| cmet - Posts: 690 |
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ChatGPT is exceptionally good with ACSIL and exported SC data. Need to prep chats and understand what you're after, but it's the equivalent of working with an expert coder in my experience.
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2024-12-11 15:02:46
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| [2024-12-11 18:31:01] |
| j4ytr4der_ - Posts: 946 |
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I've had better success with the help of claude.ai when it comes to coding. But they are all very useful, so long as you understand the problem you are trying to solve very well, and can articulate things in an extremely clear and concise way.
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| [2024-12-11 19:22:30] |
| ForgivingComputers.com - Posts: 1042 |
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But they are all very useful, so long as you understand the problem you are trying to solve very well, and can articulate things in an extremely clear and concise way.
So true. Working with a developer who can ask clarifying questions beats trying to tell a chat bot what you want. When the AI-generated code doesn't compile and you don't know a thing about coding, then you are stuck. |
| [2024-12-12 01:08:22] |
| j4ytr4der_ - Posts: 946 |
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Yep. You need to have it in you to get yourself "unstuck". Not everyone has that drive in them!
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| [2024-12-12 03:50:49] |
| ondafringe - Posts: 322 |
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And those are the same people who are using Notepad++ instead of Visual Studio Community. lol
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| [2024-12-12 14:01:58] |
| cmet - Posts: 690 |
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When the AI-generated code doesn't compile and you don't know a thing about coding, then you are stuck.
If you give GPT the compiling or message log errors, it can usually trouble shoot the problem (usually). It's also surprisingly good and working off of screen shots. You definitely need to know what you're after. It isn't push button at all. |
| [2024-12-12 22:34:54] |
| j4ytr4der_ - Posts: 946 |
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Yep I find that much of the time I only need to copy & paste the error. But sometimes it just gets in a loop where it goes back & forth between 2 versions of the code and never makes any progress. This is where at least understanding the logic of what you are trying to do, and what's not working, makes all the difference. I find that if I can explain WHY the code doesn't work correctly, and exactly at what point it's getting some wrong piece of information, that can be enough to nudge the LLM in the right direction towards a fix that works.
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| [2025-01-05 01:09:28] |
| User90074 - Posts: 2 |
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I have been writing algorithms using Sierra Charts for some time and deeply appreciate the platform’s robust charting capabilities and low-latency data feeds. However, I’ve encountered significant challenges when attempting to integrate advanced analytics, particularly machine learning, into my workflows. The current limitations of ACSIL make it difficult to incorporate external processing seamlessly. To implement machine learning, I have to export data from Sierra Charts, process it in Python, and then reconnect via the DTC protocol for execution. This multi-step process is both limiting and challenging, especially when working with real-time strategies or large datasets. It would be incredibly valuable if Sierra Charts could offer more direct support for integrating modern programming languages or libraries, such as Python, to facilitate machine learning and data processing. Enhancing these capabilities would make Sierra Charts an even more powerful tool for algorithmic traders. |
| [2025-01-05 01:56:28] |
| Sierra_Chart Engineering - Posts: 19305 |
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Post #15 is not making sense to us because you have access to the entire C++ language and the entire operating system functionality. There are no limits at all. Absolutely none. To say there are limits, is just factually untrue. You can definitely accomplish anything you want. The only thing, we could identify from what you have said is if you are looking for very low latency execution, less than 10 ms, then you would need to use the DTC protocol server to send the orders to it. To say C++ is not a modern programming language makes no sense. It is the fastest and most broad and most capable programming language. And you can make function calls, to other C++ libraries. There are no limits. You can even create a thread, doing background execution from a custom study function. Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing Date Time Of Last Edit: 2025-01-05 01:57:35
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| [2025-01-05 06:40:34] |
| seandunaway - Posts: 348 |
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i think the complaint is that the popular machine learning libraries are in python (for some reason i can't fathom) but @User90074, sierrachart and c++ are so powerful you can even embed your own python interpreter in your study! https://docs.python.org/3/extending/embedding.html Date Time Of Last Edit: 2025-01-05 06:52:54
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