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[2022-10-13 17:47:05]
User266447 - Posts: 266
How can I set an alert on vPOC (Point of Control), High value area and low value area? On market profile indicator?
[2022-10-13 20:18:04]
John - SC Support - Posts: 37808
You can not get the information directly from the TPO study, as the values of the Value Area and POC are not available from the TPO.

The workaround would be to have another chart and use the Volume Value Area Lines study and then set the alert based on that study. You could use the Study/Price Overlay to bring the data into the TPO chart and then create an alert on that, if it is what you want.

Note that we reference the Volume Value Area Lines study, since you stated you wanted the vPOC. If you want the TPO POC, then you would want to use the TPO Value Area Lines study.

Refer to the following:
Volume Value Area Lines
TPO Value Area Lines
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2022-10-13 20:18:30
[2022-10-17 11:19:18]
User266447 - Posts: 266
I have added the Volume Value Area Lines and I would like to have an alert when price touch POC, Value Area High and Value Area Low. Shall I write any comment in the alert condition or only set the alert i.e. number 18?
[2022-10-17 16:06:52]
John - SC Support - Posts: 37808
You need to add the condition.

In order to capture all 3 of the areas, you would need to use the OR() function and you would need to use the CROSSOVER() function to check if the Close has crossed the line. So your alert would look like the following:
=OR(CROSSOVER(C, ID1.SG1), CROSSOVER(C, ID1.SG2), CROSSOVER(C, ID1.SG3))

Where ID1.SG1, ID1.SG2, and ID1.SG3 are the POC, VAH, and VAL subgraphs from the study with the ID of 1. You would need to update these items for your particular setup.
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[2022-10-18 14:08:36]
User266447 - Posts: 266
I have set my alert on Value Area Lines this way(in alert condition): =OR(CROSSOVER(C,ID1.SG1),CROSSOVER(C,IF1.SG2),CROSSOVER(CID1.SG3))

but I am not receiving any alerts when price touches POC, VAH or VAL. I have set my alert sound, but nothing is coming up once one of these three lines (from one of the previous market profiles are touched).
[2022-10-18 16:27:47]
John - SC Support - Posts: 37808
If you copied the Alert Condition directly, then you have a typo in the second Crossover where it is "IF1.SG2" and it should be "ID1.SG2". Also, there is a missing comma in the last Crossover where it currently shows "CID1.SG3" and it should be "C, ID1.SG3".

Otherwise, the only thing we can think is that you have the ID of the study incorrect and it would need to be something else other than '1'.
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[2022-10-18 16:51:34]
User266447 - Posts: 266
If I copied directly from which place? The alert condition is written once only in the TPO value area lines. Shall I put the alert condition in a different place as well?

Could you support me with a print screen, please?
[2022-10-18 20:45:16]
John - SC Support - Posts: 37808
Attached is an image of the Color Bar Based on Alert Condition with the settings and condition as you would have them.

But, you need to ensure that the ID for the Value Area Lines Study is correct.
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[2022-10-19 08:56:40]
User266447 - Posts: 266
Thank you for the print screen. So the alert condition I am writing into TPO Value Area Lines, however the ID.2 I am setting with the VbP for TPO Chart? - Based on: Value Are Lines ... ID.2

Or shall I set this in TPOs?
[2022-10-19 09:05:22]
User266447 - Posts: 266
Do we have a color bar based on alert condition in here? Here I need an alert when price touches POC, VAH and VAL. And I thought Volume Value Area Lines will be enough to have the alert.

What you are suggesting is to set the alert in Volume Value Area Lines and then use ID.2 for color bar based alert?
[2022-10-19 09:08:40]
User266447 - Posts: 266
Will I have the alert when price touch one of these three levels (POC, VAH or VAL) in one set up?
[2022-10-19 16:34:03]
John - SC Support - Posts: 37808
Sorry, we got confused, as there is another thread that was dealing with the Color Bar Based on Alert Condition. Just ignore everything related to that.

Setting the alert in the Volume Value Area Lines study is fine, and if you do that, then you do not need to have the ID references.

Please copy and paste the alert condition as you have entered it in your study so we can take a look and make sure it is correct.
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[2022-10-20 09:58:42]
User266447 - Posts: 266
Thank you for the explanation. Can I ask for the relevant printscreen, please? This should help to solve the set-up.

On another hand if I need a separate alert on POC, VAH and VAL (I will open 3 different charts if needed), what alert condition shall I write once price touch one of prevoius days Market Profile`s:

a) POC,
b) VAH,
c) VAL
[2022-10-20 13:47:13]
User266447 - Posts: 266
Let me add print-screens refering to the first sentence from the previous message

Part 1.
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[2022-10-20 13:47:53]
User266447 - Posts: 266
Last print screen regarding my previous message.
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[2022-10-20 14:38:52]
John - SC Support - Posts: 37808
Your Alert Condition has a typo. In the second Crossover you have "IF1", which should be "ID1".

Another issue is that the TPO Value Area Lines needs to be on a separate chart. It can not be on the same chart as the TPO itself.

And finally, the ID in the Alert Condition needs to match the ID of the study. Assuming you could keep the TPO Value Area Lines on that chart, the ID for the study is 2 (see where it says "ID: 2"). Therefore, the alert condition needs to have ID2 instead of ID1. When you change this on a new chart make sure you use the the proper ID.
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[2022-10-20 15:16:21]
User266447 - Posts: 266
OK, I corected the typo mistake and opened a new chart - put a new TPO Value Area Lines on it. At the moment two big questions:
1) POC, VAH and VAL are not at the same level as I have them on my main market profile chart.
2) POC, VAH and VAL from previous days are not extended until touch (this is how I have this set on my main market profile grapth.

When I finish setting the alert condition on the new chart will the alert refer to my main market profile chart or to the chart I have just opened?

Print screen attached.
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[2022-10-20 16:56:45]
John - SC Support - Posts: 37808
1. In terms of them being different, make sure the settings are the same between the TPO and the TPO Value Area Lines. For instance, the Price Increment in Ticks needs to be the same for both studies.

Also, on the TPO, if you have set the Value Area Highlight Based on Volume and/or the Point of Control Highlight Based on Volume, then you would want to use the Volume Value Area instead of the TPO Value Area study.

2. There is not an option for the extension in the Value Area Lines studies. But this started out as a way to create an alert for this situation.


The Alert itself will be on the chart that has the Value Area study on it with the alert. So it will not be the TPO chart.
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[2022-10-21 12:46:25]
User266447 - Posts: 266
If there isn`t an option to have alerts on extention lines, maybe I can set ray lines and extended rectangles with alerts on it?

The only problem is that I have tried before and was unable to do it. In other words, how can I set an alert on a ray line and on a rectangle - let me provide a printscreen for a ray line as I have my set-ups for VAH, VAL, POC.

VAL print-screen attachad. What I am doing wrong as the alert is not triggering
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Attachment Deleted.
[2022-10-21 17:38:17]
John - SC Support - Posts: 37808
You have the Open as Crossing the line. The Open is always a static number per bar, so it will never "cross" the line. You need to use the Last.
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[2022-10-21 20:01:14]
User266447 - Posts: 266
I have set the alert to: Last and Crossing or Equal to, but it still does not work. What shell I do?
[2022-10-21 20:29:14]
John - SC Support - Posts: 37808
Do you have the option for Enable Alert for Chart Drawing enabled at the top of the Drawing Alert window? If not, then the alert is not active.

And is the last price actually crossing through the line? If it does not, then the alert will not be true.

If the above are set and happening, then open the Window >> Alert Manager and take a look in there to see what is occurring.
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2022-10-21 20:30:56
[2022-10-26 19:31:17]
User266447 - Posts: 266
Here is my chart setting/chart drawings attached printscreen no. 3. Is it OK?

Refering to: "And is the last price actually crossing through the line? If it does not, then the alert will not be true" - As most of the trendlines are set on market profile chart maybe I should change it to volume - crossing or equal - or time? But I do not have time there. Will volume be OK? Print screen no 4 shows the current set-up.
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[2022-10-26 19:37:41]
User266447 - Posts: 266
An adjustment to my last message (above):
I also click (just at the time of writting) the box: Enable Alert for Chart Drawing which was not clicked before. It should work for now - fingers crossed (based on High-crossing or Equal to).
[2022-10-26 20:31:16]
John - SC Support - Posts: 37808
You need to select the Study Subgraph of Last.
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