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Volume-Colored Based on Bar Closes: Not plotting correctly
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| [2019-08-23 09:29:12] |
| User882915 - Posts: 32 |
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Dear Sierra Chart Support Team, I noticed a while ago that the "volume-colored based on bar closes" study in my CL charts apparently does not work correctly. (The study is located in chart region 2; I use it in 1 minute charts) The volumes (and the associated bars) are only displayed correctly whenever I reload/recalculate the chart manually by pressing the "Insert" key. Interestingly, the indicated volume also differs between two different 1 min charts (I have one 1 min numbers bars chart and one 1 min candlestick chart). Only after recalculating each charts manually, the studies show the same bar sizes (with the scale being the same in both charts). Do you have any idea what might be the reason and what I can do to fix it (to relieve me from having to press the insert key all the time for proper volume indications)? Thank you very much in advance for any help. Kind regards Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-08-23 09:30:21
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| [2019-08-23 10:02:48] |
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The behavior of that study should definitely be very stable. Provide an image of the chart or Trade DOM, by following these instructions: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/PostingInformation.php#Image Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2019-08-27 08:00:10] |
| User882915 - Posts: 32 |
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Thank you for your response. May apologies, but attaching images by the method described under the the link you posted is not suitable for me as it requires to remove a ton of studies etc., as otherwise it would most likely be disregarded by you. So, instead I simply took small screenshots and attached them to this and (due to the number being limited to 4 attachments) to the next message by means of the "add/edit attached files" option here. All pics show the volume indicator chart region across a time window of (the same) few minutes for a 1 minute numbers bars chart and a 1 minute candlestick chart (both CLEV19). For the two "...BEFORE recalculation" pictures, the last time I recalculated manually was at 09:25 chart time. You will see that both, the numbers bars and the candlestick charts show the same volume for the earlier few minutes shown. But from 09:26 on the volumes in both charts are vastly different. Only after I pressed the insert button to manually recalculate, both charts showed the same (and supposedly correct) volumes for the time after 09:25, too. I attached the two associated screenshots "...AFTER recalculation" to the next message. Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-08-27 08:07:17
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| [2019-08-27 08:02:05] |
| User882915 - Posts: 32 |
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Here, I attached the remaining 2 screenshots ("...AFTER recalculation". Thank you in advance for any advice on how to cope with this problem. Kind regards |
| CLEV19 1 min numbers bars chart AFTER recalculation.jpg / V - Attached On 2019-08-27 08:01:17 UTC - Size: 23.7 KB - 263 views CLEV19 1 min candlestick chart AFTER recalculation.jpg / V - Attached On 2019-08-27 08:01:25 UTC - Size: 27.88 KB - 256 views |
| [2019-08-27 08:33:15] |
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Ultimately we do not really know what you are doing with the study configuration but it sounds complicated. So most likely this is just due to a calculation order issue: Chart Studies: Study Calculation Precedence And Related Issues Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-08-27 17:03:51
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| [2019-08-27 15:12:37] |
| User882915 - Posts: 32 |
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Thanks for your feedback. Indeed, it seems to be a complicated issue. Because actually, the volume indicator study was in 2nd position in one of the charts (where I have 42 studies on), so the position in the list should not have been the problem. On my other chart (with 32 studies on) I had it somewhat lower in the list and I have the feeling that now that I moved it to 2nd position, too, it is less off the real volume than before, but it still is off and both charts still have different volume indications prior to a manual recalculation. I left all settings of both indicators in default settings. Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-08-27 15:13:33
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| [2019-08-27 17:38:15] |
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Is that Volume study based on another study? If not, the position would not matter.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2019-08-28 07:10:10] |
| User882915 - Posts: 32 |
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Is that Volume study based on another study? If not, the position would not matter.
No, it is just the standard "volume-colored based on bar closes" study from the list of studies Sierra provides (with the default settings). |
| [2019-08-28 17:39:11] |
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Therefore, it would seem as though that what is currently displayed as the main price graph is not the original Main Price Graph but has been replaced by a study and its Volume per bar is not updating correctly.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-08-28 17:41:43
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| [2019-09-01 09:23:47] |
| User882915 - Posts: 32 |
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Therefore, it would seem as though that what is currently displayed as the main price graph is not the original Main Price Graph but has been replaced by a study and its Volume per bar is not updating correctly.
It seems I misunderstood your last comment then. Thank you for providing that idea of the potential reason for the issue. However, while I am not 100 % sure about that for the chart with the numbers bars, in the candlestick chart those candlesticks are the original main price graph and yet the associated volume indicator is plotting incorrectly. |
| [2019-09-03 04:26:37] |
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This technically does not make sense. That study is very simple. There could not be a problem with that study itself: Volume-Colored Based on Bar Closes Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-09-03 04:27:06
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| [2019-09-03 07:51:10] |
| User882915 - Posts: 32 |
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This technically does not make sense. That study is very simple. There could not be a problem with that study itself:
Volume-Colored Based on Bar Closes Yes, it surprised me, too. But as you could see from the screenshots I posted, there is a problem. I have about 18 charts up simultaneously (all in one instance of Sierra Chart) and some of them have plenty of studies on them. Although my PC is quite powerful (CPU and RAM should me more than adequate), maybe that is just too much for Sierra to cope with? Do you think it might help to split the charts up into two instances? |
| [2019-09-03 10:05:45] |
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This is not an issue due to CPU load. It simply could not be. So to confirm you do not see a problem with the study when used by itself on a chart? Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-09-04 09:09:17
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| [2019-09-04 10:30:08] |
| User882915 - Posts: 32 |
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So to confirm you do not see a problem with the study when used by itself on a chart?
Short answer: No, I don't see a problem then. I also noticed that the volume counters sometimes reset themselves on the problematic charts prior to the associated 1 minute candle being closed and seem to start counting from 0 again. (Further details below) To answer your question, I opened a new chartbook (within the same instance) and put up a default 1 minute chart of the same contract, using "Volume-Colored Based on Bar Closes" as the only study on it. I then compared it to the volume indications on my other two 1-minute charts for about 10 minutes: On the simple new chart with only that one study on, the volume was counted without any issues and also remained the same after manual recalculation. As before, on the other two charts, the volume was counted/indicated completely wrong (also differing between the two), and only after manual re-calculations it was shown correctly (showing the same value as the one on the simple chart). While watching the development of the volume closely, I also noticed that the volume counters (which display the volume as a number in green or red numbers right next to the study name) sometimes DROP again on the two "problem charts". Example: they had already counted to e.g. 200 and then suddenly dropped to (apparently) 0 again for the relevant 1 minute bar, although the next 1 minute candle had not started, yet. That happened very often. I wrote "apparently", because instead of a 0 a very low figure (e.g. 4 or 14) was indicated, but I assume it is based on an immediate restart of the counting from 0. Of course, that must be an error. |
| [2019-09-04 11:26:58] |
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Provide that chart by following these instructions here: Support Board Posting Information: Providing Chartbook with Only a Single Chart Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2019-09-04 14:30:03] |
| User882915 - Posts: 32 |
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Assuming you are referring to one of the "problem charts", I attached the 1 min candlestick chart (as private), which is one of the two charts having issues with the volume indicator. Thanks in advance for having a look at it. |
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| [2019-09-10 03:14:00] |
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We see that chart is using the Add Additional Symbol Study and there was a problem with that study affecting the volume of the main price graph. This is resolved in the latest release which is 1986. To update, follow the instructions here: Software Download: Fast Update Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2019-09-10 07:21:13] |
| User882915 - Posts: 32 |
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Thank you very much for your efforts and feedback. I have just updated to release 1986 this morning and indeed the volume seems to be calculated correctly in all charts now, without the need to manually recalculate. |
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