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[2016-01-27 10:21:29]
binaryduke - Posts: 369
Hi SierraChart

I'm confused by the attached ChartDOM vs numbers bars and would appreciate your interpretation. Here's the screen shot that applies:

http://www.sierrachart.com/image.php?l=1453889801958.png

Please note the area around 160'02

The numbers bar at 160'03 says 15 lots traded at the bid and none at the ask. If I look at the ChartDOM, I see 13 at the bid of 160'02 (that's what made me take the screen dump - the increase from 2x to 15x) but no numbers bar print at '02.

Should I interpret this that the 13x printed at '03 when '03 was the bid, or is the numbers bar incorrect and the numbers bar should actually appear at '02?

I have the numbers bars configured for Bid Vol x Ask Vol with colouring based on the diagonal dominant side.

Thanks

Lee.
[2016-01-27 10:28:07]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
We do not know how we can possibly answer this question.

We do not know what the Chart DOM is even displaying.

And you are in a much better position to answer this question than we are. All of the functionality of Sierra Chart is clearly documented and you can see the market activity. Refer to the relevant documentation.

Furthermore, you have provided a very large image full of all kinds of information. We cannot be overwhelmed with all this information.
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2016-01-27 10:30:00
[2016-01-27 10:30:57]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
Here is the relevant documentation:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/doc_NumbersBars.php

https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/doc_GlobalTradeSettings.html#ChartDOMColumnDescriptions
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[2016-01-27 10:43:41]
binaryduke - Posts: 369
Thank you for the quick response. I'm familiar with the documentation.

The ChartDOM is showing:

price / buy order column / bid size / RECENT BID VOLUME / RECENT ASK VOLUME / ask size / sell order column

I am only referring to the window containing the chart DOM.

HERE IS MY HOPEFULLY CLEAR QUESTION
Please can you explain how RECENT BID VOLUME can show 13 contracts hitting the bid at 160'02 when there is no corresponding numbers bar at 160'02 but the volume appears to be shown on the 160'03 numbers bar.

If you would be kind enough to explain that, I would be most grateful. Thank you.
[2016-01-27 18:44:48]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
Does the chart have Volume Filtering set in Chart >> Chart Settings >>Advanced Settings 2?
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2016-01-27 18:45:21
[2016-01-27 19:04:52]
binaryduke - Posts: 369
No.
[2016-01-28 09:47:06]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
Due to some recent changes to support consolidating trades with prices near the tick size but not exactly at the tick size, CTS bond prices are not being mapped to the correct price level in all cases.

We are solving this now.
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[2016-01-29 08:44:13]
binaryduke - Posts: 369
Hi

I can now see that this is consistently occurring with recent bid/ask volume being printed in the ChartDOM and the TradeDOM 1 tick lower than the actual trade location. I have only tested this on ZB and cannot report on any other symbols.

Lee.
[2016-01-29 08:55:53]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
This was solved earlier today. Update Sierra Chart to the latest prerelease with Help >> Download Prerelease.

It is not likely to occur with other symbols. It has to do with these fractional values being transmitted as large scaled integers.
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[2016-01-29 09:05:20]
binaryduke - Posts: 369
Got it. Looks perfect. Thanks for addressing this quickly. Fully appreciate that rounding fractions to decimals is a PITA.
[2016-01-29 09:13:25]
binaryduke - Posts: 369
Hi

It looks like this prerelease now has a problem for volume calculations per the attached screen dump showing Finish AskVol BidVol Diff and Ask/Bid Volume Difference Bars:

http://www.sierrachart.com/image.php?l=145405868071.png

Regards

Lee.
[2016-01-29 09:17:50]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
We will look into this now. This might have something to do with the new CME trade unbundling feature that CTS released for FIX because otherwise we see no reason why there would be a problem.
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[2016-01-29 09:24:35]
binaryduke - Posts: 369
I just deleted and redownloaded the symbol data within the pre-release and now the volume appears OK. I guess your internal storage method for the volume data changed.
[2016-01-29 09:32:16]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
We have spotted the problem. CTS is transmitting sometimes -1 for a trade volume.

So that needs to be filtered out.

Give us about an hour.
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[2016-01-29 09:33:45]
binaryduke - Posts: 369
Cool. Many thanks. Lee.
[2016-01-29 10:48:31]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
This is now solved. Update to the latest prerelease again using Help >> Download Prerelease.
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For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service:
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[2016-01-29 10:51:26]
binaryduke - Posts: 369
Cheers, will do. LH.
[2016-01-29 11:11:08]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
Also, the CME trades are now unbundled when using CTS. So the number of trades per minute will increase.
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Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
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For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service:
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