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LINES THAT ARE DRAWN GET COLLAPSED INTO DOTS
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| [2015-12-11 06:53:54] |
| User41636 - Posts: 35 |
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How can I prevent lines that I draw from subsequently getting collapsed into dots? I draw lines representing certain levels from the current day’s trading into the blank fill space available for the following day’s chart. The projected charts run from 0830-1600 CT, as I run out of fill space to the right to draw lines across 24-hour projected charts. So on a given day’s chart I have lines showing key levels from the previous day’s trading (High, Low, Close, etc.). But when that “next day” arrives, all too often around the time of the morning open the lines drawn have collapsed into dots – this past Monday, for example. How can I avoid this annoyance? Once I start trading, there simply isn’t time to go through each chart, locate the dots and restore my lines. I’ve checked the section on “Locking Chart Drawings” but the information is pretty skimpy. Nothing there about how to prevent lines drawn from subsequently getting collapsed into dots or single points. Am wondering if the “Lock the drawing” option will solve the problem. |
| [2015-12-11 08:37:13] |
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This does not make sense. How many days of data are you loading in the chart? It is hard for us to understand this unless we see before and after images of the chart or know how much data is loaded in the chart. It certainly is not something that we would expect at all or something that we would even be aware of or ever have contemplated. It is very unusual for us to have a report like this. Locking a Chart Drawing is not a solution to this at all. Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2015-12-11 11:01:26] |
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Thinking about what you are describing, it seems as though the only reasonable cause would be that the particular Date-Time for the first anchor point originally drawn to for the Chart Drawing does not exist any longer. You need to make sure the Days to Load setting is high enough to include that particular Date-Time: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/doc_ChartSettings.html#DaysToLoad Otherwise, as we said we need to see before and after images of the chart to comprehend this. Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2015-12-14 16:32:31] |
| User41636 - Posts: 35 |
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I think I see the problem. When your engineers set up charts, originally every day of the week is included. Am unclear about the timing, but at some point the chart space allotted to Saturdays gets deleted, along with the Sunday hours that don’t include trading. So taking, as an example, an S&P 500 futures chart running from 0830 to 1600 CT, by Monday 0830 CT the chart space that initially included the non-trading hours for Saturday December 12 and Sunday December 13 will have disappeared, and the charts will show no break in trading activity from Friday’s close to Monday morning’s open. I used QCharts for years drawing such lines (not complaining here, as Sierra Chart is a much better product). There, fill space to the right was seemingly unlimited. Their charting setup may even have been programmed to exclude Saturdays. One could move ahead in time as far forward as required, skipping past any weekend and holiday non-trading periods, and draw lines on later-dated charts. Present case. After the Friday, December 11 close, I attempt to draw lines on a fifteen-minute S&P 500 futures chart for Monday December 14. The lines are anchored on Friday. But there’s not enough fill space to include enough of December 14. So I hopefully draw lines in the chart area now (on Friday December 11) designated for Saturday December 12 (see Picture 1, taken on Friday December 11). ‘Hopefully’ because I realize this December 12 area will eventually disappear, yet I’m trusting that, through some coding magic, the December 12 date will be switched to December 14 and my lines will remain intact. Obviously I’m wrong. The December 12 charting area will indeed disappear – but will take the lines with it. By Monday 0830 CT the lines intended for December 14 will be reduced to dots located back on Friday’s chart (see green and black dots, Picture 2, taken on Monday December 14). Conclusion: Owing to a lack of available fill space to the right, it looks as if it’s just not practicable to draw lines on projected charts whose dates come after weekends and holidays. P.S. Sorry but I was not able to include pictures. I tried "Edit|Copy Chart Image" but it didn't work. |
| [2015-12-14 22:32:44] |
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Go to the Session Time settings for the chart and limit them to the actual trading hours for the symbol being traded. Here is the documentation: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/doc_SessionTimes.php In Chart >> Chart Settings set Session Times >> Do Not Load Weekend Data. In the latest release of Sierra Chart you are able to specifically load Sunday, Saturday or no weekend data. It sounds like in your case you do not want to load any weekend data and those days will be excluded from the fill space. Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing Date Time Of Last Edit: 2015-12-14 22:34:04
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| [2015-12-15 03:02:14] |
| User41636 - Posts: 35 |
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"Days To Load" is backward looking and increasing it has no impact on fill space to the right. Although I prefer to load weekend data, opting "Do Not Load Weekend Data" - which I have already tried - makes little difference in terms of making more fill space to the right available. The problem is limited availability of fill space to the right. It must be an issue that the engineers either can't resolve or don't consider to be worth their attention. |
| [2015-12-15 04:19:09] |
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Days to Load is not relevant here. It sounds like you want to increase the number of bars available in the forward projection area. How to do this is documented here: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/doc_Tools.html#ForwardProjections If you can still not accomplish what you want, we need to look at this more closely and see what needs to be done, but the capability should exist already. There is no reason to load Saturday data. Therefore, if you want to see weekend data, then choose the option Load Sunday Data . Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing Date Time Of Last Edit: 2015-12-15 04:19:52
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| [2015-12-15 08:28:07] |
| User41636 - Posts: 35 |
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Have checked and rechecked "Charts|Chart Settings|Advanced Settings" and can find nothing at all there that is described as "Number of Forward Columns." I have Package 1 and am using version 1335. Am I allowed to upgrade to a more recent version that will let me choose the "Load Sunday Data" option? |
| [2015-12-15 10:19:04] |
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Refer to the attachment for the location of this control. Version 1335 is sufficient for the above setting. Follow the instructions here to update to the current version: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/download.php#FastUpdate Yes you are allowed to do that. Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
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| [2015-12-15 20:14:06] |
| User41636 - Posts: 35 |
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Have updated to the current version as directed. But version 1336 was installed, not an update of version 1335 (maybe I already had the latest update of 1335 so the logical progression was 1336). Am assuming 1336 should be an improvement in any case. Under "Charts|Chart Settings|Main Settings" I now have the "Load Sunday Data" option and it seems promising - will know more after the coming weekend when it can be put to the test. However, "Charts|Chart Settings|Advanced Settings" does not appear to have changed at all. What I have looks nothing like the attached image you were thoughtful to provide. Despite the update to 1336, I still can't find anything described as "Number of Forward Columns." No idea what is going wrong. |
| [2015-12-17 05:08:03] |
| User41636 - Posts: 35 |
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I have to apologize. The control for "Number of Forward Columns" does indeed appear in "Chart|Chart Settings|Advanced Settings" and I missed it. If I increase the "Number of Forward Columns" from the default of 150 to 1500, will that cause memory problems? |
| [2015-12-17 05:42:51] |
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We apologize for the delay with responding to post #10. We now understand that you did find the Number of Forward Columns control. It is perfectly acceptable to set it to 1500. Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2015-12-19 22:18:34] |
| User41636 - Posts: 35 |
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Under "Chart|Chart Settings|Main Settings" the "Do Not Load Weekend Data" and "Load Sunday Data" options are big improvements when drawing lines after a Friday close on the following Monday's charts. One does not run out of available fill space to the right with chart space allotted to Saturdays eliminated. "Number of Forward Columns": As to attempts to extend into fill space to the right and work (on a Friday, for example, as above) on charts beyond Monday, however, no matter how much I increase the number in the control for "Number of Forward Columns" under "Chart|Chart Settings|Advanced Settings" there is no effect whatsoever on the amount of fill space to the right made available. The "Lock Fill Space" control just above is unchecked - if that makes any difference. I can move only so far forward into the following week's charts, so I am wondering what exactly the control for "Number of Forward Columns" achieves. |
| [2015-12-22 08:06:32] |
| User41636 - Posts: 35 |
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NUMBER OF FORWARD COLUMNS: No matter how much I increase the number in the control for "Number of Forward Columns" under "Chart|Chart Settings|Advanced Settings" there is no effect whatsoever on the amount of fill space to the right made available. The extent to which I can move forward into the future on the charts seems to be fixed. So I am wondering what exactly the control for "Number of Forward Columns" should achieve. The "Lock Fill Space" control just above is unchecked - if that makes any difference. |
| [2015-12-22 08:28:10] |
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We are just about to answer this. We are writing up documentation.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2015-12-22 08:49:21] |
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Using the Maximum Amount of Space from Number of Forward Columns Setting: To take advantage of the maximum amount of space on the right side of a chart when using a higher Chart >> Chart Settings >> Advanced Settings >> Number of Forward Columns setting, follow these instructions: - Increase the Chart >> Chart Settings >> Advanced Settings >> Number of Forward Columns setting to what you require. -Unlock the fill space by removing checkmark from Chart >> Lock Fill Space. -Decrease the spacing in the chart by pressing the down arrow key on the keyboard or by using the "Large Decrease Spacing" Control Bar button. Decrease it to an absolute minimum. You will see 0 at the lower right of the chart when it is at the minimum. - Press the right arrow on the scrollbar at the bottom of the chart to scroll the chart bars towards the left, so only 1 bar appears on the left of the chart. -Optionally increase the timeframe of the chart bars until you see the Date-Times in the right side fill space that you require. - As you may already have observed, any of the above, only needs to be done to the extent that you require to get the Date-Times in the right side fill space that you require. You can then draw Chart Drawings into that right side. Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing Date Time Of Last Edit: 2015-12-22 08:52:06
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