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[2016-05-26 04:26:29]
User713273 - Posts: 409
Great, will look for new release. Thx agin for the work on this.
[2016-05-26 05:27:35]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
Version 1418 has now been released. Update as soon as possible through Help >> Download Prerelease.
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[2016-05-26 13:22:25]
User713273 - Posts: 409
Great have downloaded. When I try to load my custom study is states "ACS Safe Mode Enabled" is this a reflection on my custom study and can I just override when I log into SC?
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2016-05-26 13:34:41
Private File
[2016-05-26 16:43:00]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
We apologize for the delay with this. We needed to check something related to this.

Restart Sierra Chart and uncheck the "Safe Mode" option. This is all you need to do.
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[2016-05-26 16:44:53]
User713273 - Posts: 409
Yes, have done this, will wait for more information from you on this, thx.
[2016-05-26 17:13:09]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
There is no further information. You can just simply uncheck that option and it will be fine.
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[2016-06-14 18:54:34]
User713273 - Posts: 409
Hi, please see below Trade Activity Log. When I sell out of a position in a live account I seem to update the internal position quantity to -1 prior to filling the order. I understand we had issues communicating within IB's API and SC and I have to wonder if this is at all related. Im currently using 1 contract when testing in live account.

This does not occur when using simulation account.

Is this normal protocol when handling orders?

ActivityType  DateTime  Symbol  OrderActionSource  InternalOrderID  ServiceOrderID  OrderType  Quantity  BuySell  Price  Price2  OrderStatus  FillPrice  FilledQuantity  TradeAccount  OpenClose  ParentInternalOrderID  PositionQuantity  FillExecutionServiceID

Order  2016-06-14 06:36:40.196  AAPL-OPT-20160617-98-C  Synchronized Internal Position to current Service Position. Current Position quantity: 0                Unspecified      U1644808        
Fill  2016-06-14 06:36:32.193  AAPL-OPT-20160617-98-C-SMART-100-USD  IB order fill (execution)  116395  10949  Limit  1  Sell  0.98    Filled  0.98  1  U1644808  Open    -1  00014980.575fec4f.01.01
Order  2016-06-14 06:36:32.192  AAPL-OPT-20160617-98-C  Updated Internal Position Quantity to -1                Unspecified      U1644808        
Order  2016-06-14 06:36:32.191  AAPL-OPT-20160617-98-C-SMART-100-USD  IB order fill (execution)  116395  10949  Limit  1  Sell  0.98    Filled  0.98  1  U1644808  Close    1

Again thx for the time. Adam
[2016-06-15 19:43:00]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
We have been looking at this and thinking about this, and this is not making sense. There may be some activity we are not seeing which will give us an idea why this is happening. Otherwise, PositionQuantity field in the Trade Activity Data is not making sense relative to the Internal Position Quantity.

We need you to provide the complete Trade Activity Log file. Here are instructions:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/doc_TradeActivityLog.php#TradeActivityLogFileToSupport
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2016-07-29 19:53:33
[2016-06-16 14:11:14]
User713273 - Posts: 409
Thx. Find Attached. Worked as needed today. Will keep you informed if errors occur.
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[2016-06-17 13:56:38]
User713273 - Posts: 409
Today reverted back, find attached Trade Activity Log. Thanks again for the direction on this matter.
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2016-06-24 17:58:41
[2016-06-17 16:34:29]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
We are checking on this. There must be something about the fill data or Trade Position data updates from Interactive Brokers which are not correct causing the Position Quantity to behave as it is shown in post #31.
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2016-06-27 17:41:39
[2016-06-20 14:22:48]
User713273 - Posts: 409
Issue is still ongoing. Let me know your thoughts on resolve.
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2016-06-24 17:58:19
[2016-06-20 17:28:13]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
We are looking at this now.

You have a very large Trade Activity Log . We have to add a new command to disable the building of the Trades list in the Trade Activity Log in order for it to not be very slow.
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[2016-06-21 11:36:17]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
We now have been able to analyze the Trade Activity Log.

The Position Quantity updating is not making sense here:
ActivityType  DateTime  Symbol  OrderActionSource  InternalOrderID  PositionQuantity  ServiceOrderID  OrderStatus  OrderType  FillPrice  Price  Quantity  BuySell  Price2  FilledQuantity  TradeAccount  OpenClose  ParentInternalOrderID  FillExecutionServiceID
Order  2016-06-14 09:36:32.191  AAPL-OPT-20160617-98-C-SMART-100-USD  IB order fill (execution)  116395  1  10949  Filled  Limit  0.98000  0.98000  1  Sell    1  U1644808  Close    
Order  2016-06-14 09:36:32.192  AAPL-OPT-20160617-98-C  Updated Internal Position Quantity to -1        Unspecified                U1644808      
Fill  2016-06-14 09:36:32.193  AAPL-OPT-20160617-98-C-SMART-100-USD  IB order fill (execution)  116395  -1  10949  Filled  Limit  0.98000  0.98000  1  Sell    1  U1644808  Open    00014980.575fec4f.01.01
Order  2016-06-14 09:36:40.196  AAPL-OPT-20160617-98-C  Synchronized Internal Position to current Service Position. Current Position quantity: 0        Unspecified                U1644808      

It is harmless but it seems there is something unusual going on with the Trade Position and Order Fill data from TWS.

The next release will have more detailed logging but will generate more messages.
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2016-06-21 11:36:48
[2016-06-24 00:47:25]
User713273 - Posts: 409
Has the release occurred?
[2016-06-24 00:57:18]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
Yes. Update to the current version with Help >> Download Current Version.
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[2016-06-24 14:57:38]
User713273 - Posts: 409
Updated to newest version. TAL attached. Thx
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[2016-06-24 18:52:10]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
Looking through the Trade Activity data for today in your log, we do not see any evidence of the problem. Let us know when you see the issue where you see the Internal Position Quantity being synchronized to the Service Position Quantity.

We do see a formatting problem with the new logging that we added and we have fixed that. But that is just an appearance issue.
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2016-06-24 18:52:38
[2016-06-27 13:52:15]
User713273 - Posts: 409
Attached TAL, still seeing a problem. Please review.
Attachment Deleted.
[2016-06-27 17:50:58]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
What we see happened is not the most recent issue you reported.

However, we saw earlier reported problem. This line indicates that TWS did not provide a Trade Position update for the option symbol.
Order  2016-06-27 09:38:55.739  AAPL-OPT-20160701-93-P  Synchronized Internal Position to current Service Position. Current Position quantity: 0        Unspecified                U1644808  
    

This is been an ongoing problem with Interactive Brokers that we see all the time from our users. Today we saw evidence of the underlying problem as well from another user.
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2016-06-27 17:53:14
[2016-06-30 19:04:48]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
Has Interactive Brokers solved the problem for you? You need to give them a very hard time about this.
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[2016-07-11 13:58:35]
User713273 - Posts: 409
I have not contacted them directly yet. It is sporadic in how it reacts on a regular basis, today it worked as needed, other times it does not.

Attached TAL.
Attachment Deleted.
[2016-07-11 16:30:13]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
We already looked at the Trade Activity Log. This is an Interactive Brokers issue. There is nothing more we need to see.
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[2016-07-29 19:57:10]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
The Trade Activity data in post #31 has always concerned us due to an inconsistency between the Internal Position Quantity and the PositionQuantity field of the trade activity data.

Order 2016-06-14 06:36:40.196 AAPL-OPT-20160617-98-C Synchronized Internal Position to current Service Position. Current Position quantity: 0 Unspecified U1644808
Fill 2016-06-14 06:36:32.193 AAPL-OPT-20160617-98-C-SMART-100-USD IB order fill (execution) 116395 10949 Limit 1 Sell 0.98 Filled 0.98 1 U1644808 Open -1 00014980.575fec4f.01.01
Order 2016-06-14 06:36:32.192 AAPL-OPT-20160617-98-C Updated Internal Position Quantity to -1 Unspecified U1644808
Order 2016-06-14 06:36:32.191 AAPL-OPT-20160617-98-C-SMART-100-USD IB order fill (execution) 116395 10949 Limit 1 Sell 0.98 Filled 0.98 1 U1644808 Close 1

We now realize why that happened. It is fixed in 1448. It actually started to occur when we added support for using the fill calculated Trade Position data when trading a symbol different than the chart. This was something that we had added for you.

However, we must make it abundantly clear that this was nothing more than a Position Quantity logging issue in the Trade Activity Log. And not the cause of this:
Synchronized Internal Position to current Service Position. Current Position quantity: 0

What was happening was harmless, but under some conditions could be giving incorrect Position Quantity data in the log. The Position data displayed on the Positions tab of the Trade Orders and Positions window was always correct.

There still is the ongoing problem where Interactive Brokers TWS is not sending Position updates. We have seen it ourselves during testing and other users experience it as well. This is something that we cannot solve and Interactive Brokers must fix on their side.
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Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2016-07-29 20:01:05
[2016-07-30 01:08:55]
User713273 - Posts: 409
I'm on version 1447. I have noticed as of recent it working as we need it. I'll update to 1448 and continue to monitor.

Again thx for the continued support we are very happy with Sierra chart.
[2016-08-11 15:02:29]
User713273 - Posts: 409
Let us know when you see the issue where you see the Internal Position Quantity being synchronized to the Service Position Quantity.

First time this has occurred in a while. Please advise. thx

ActivityType  DateTime  Symbol  OrderActionSource  InternalOrderID  ServiceOrderID  OrderType  Quantity  BuySell  Price  Price2  OrderStatus  FillPrice  FilledQuantity  TradeAccount  OpenClose  ParentInternalOrderID  PositionQuantity  FillExecutionServiceID
Order  2016-08-11 06:35:06.151    Requesting Open orders from trading service                Unspecified      None        
Order  2016-08-11 06:34:51.324  TSLA-OPT-20160812-227.5-P-SMART-100-USD  IB order status update  118210  11273  Stop  22  Sell  2.29    Canceled      U1644808  Close      
Order  2016-08-11 06:34:51.239  TSLA-OPT-20160812-227.5-P-SMART-100-USD  IB order status update  118211  11274  Limit  22  Sell  2.97    Canceled      U1644808  Close      
Order  2016-08-11 06:34:51.139  TSLA-OPT-20160812-227.5-P-SMART-100-USD  Auto-trade canceled order: TSLA [M] 1 Min #2 | Option Trader  118210  11273  Stop  22  Sell  2.29    Pending Cancel      U1644808  Close      
Order  2016-08-11 06:34:51.138  TSLA-OPT-20160812-227.5-P-SMART-100-USD  Auto-trade canceled order: TSLA [M] 1 Min #2 | Option Trader  118211  11274  Limit  22  Sell  2.97    Pending Cancel      U1644808  Close      
Order  2016-08-11 06:34:50.969  TSLA-OPT-20160812-227.5-P  Synchronized Internal Position to current Service Position. Current Position quantity: 0                Unspecified      U1644808        
Order  2016-08-11 06:34:43.472  TSLA-OPT-20160812-227.5-P-SMART-100-USD  IB Open Order update  118211  11274  Limit  22  Sell  2.97    Open      U1644808  Close    22  
Order  2016-08-11 06:34:43.272  TSLA-OPT-20160812-227.5-P-SMART-100-USD  IB Open Order update  118210  11273  Stop  22  Sell  2.29    Open      U1644808  Close    22  
Order  2016-08-11 06:34:43.020  TSLA-OPT-20160812-227.5-P-SMART-100-USD  Auto-trade: TSLA [M] 1 Min #2 | Option Trader | sc.SubmitOrder | Bar start Date-Time: 2016-08-11 06:34:00  118211    Limit  22  Sell  2.97    Order Sent      U1644808  Close    22  
Order  2016-08-11 06:34:43.019  TSLA-OPT-20160812-227.5-P-SMART-100-USD  Auto-trade: TSLA [M] 1 Min #2 | Option Trader | sc.SubmitOrder | Bar start Date-Time: 2016-08-11 06:34:00  118210    Stop  22  Sell  2.29    Order Sent      U1644808  Close    22  
Fill  2016-08-11 06:34:42.970  TSLA-OPT-20160812-227.5-P-SMART-100-USD  IB order fill (execution)  118209  11272  Market  18  Buy      Filled  2.70  22  U1644808  Open    22  0000ef3a.57ac6915.01.01
Order  2016-08-11 06:34:42.969  TSLA-OPT-20160812-227.5-P  Updated Internal Position Quantity to 22. Previous: 4                Unspecified      U1644808        
Order  2016-08-11 06:34:42.968  TSLA-OPT-20160812-227.5-P-SMART-100-USD  IB order fill (execution)  118209  11272  Market  22  Buy      Filled  2.70  22  U1644808  Open    4  
Fill  2016-08-11 06:34:42.850  TSLA-OPT-20160812-227.5-P-SMART-100-USD  IB order fill (execution)  118209  11272  Market  1  Buy      Open  2.70  4  U1644808  Open    4  0000ef3a.57ac6914.01.01
Order  2016-08-11 06:34:42.849  TSLA-OPT-20160812-227.5-P  Updated Internal Position Quantity to 4. Previous: 3                Unspecified      U1644808        
Fill  2016-08-11 06:34:42.499  TSLA-OPT-20160812-227.5-P-SMART-100-USD  IB order fill (execution)  118209  11272  Market  1  Buy      Open  2.58  3  U1644808  Open    3  00014988.57ac61f0.01.01
Order  2016-08-11 06:34:42.498  TSLA-OPT-20160812-227.5-P  Updated Internal Position Quantity to 3. Previous: 2                Unspecified      U1644808        
Order  2016-08-11 06:34:42.400  TSLA-OPT-20160812-227.5-P-SMART-100-USD  IB Open Order update  118209  11272  Market  22  Buy      Open  2.75  2  U1644808  Open    2  
Fill  2016-08-11 06:34:42.398  TSLA-OPT-20160812-227.5-P-SMART-100-USD  IB order fill (execution)  118209  11272  Market  1  Buy      Pending Open  2.75  2  U1644808  Open    2  0000e031.57ac5eb6.01.01
Order  2016-08-11 06:34:42.397  TSLA-OPT-20160812-227.5-P  Updated Internal Position Quantity to 2. Previous: 1                Unspecified      U1644808        
Order  2016-08-11 06:34:42.391  TSLA-OPT-20160812-227.5-P-SMART-100-USD  IB Open Order update  118209  11272  Market  22  Buy      Pending Open  2.75  1  U1644808  Open    1  
Fill  2016-08-11 06:34:42.389  TSLA-OPT-20160812-227.5-P-SMART-100-USD  IB order fill (execution)  118209  11272  Market  1  Buy      Order Sent  2.75  1  U1644808  Open    1  0000e031.57ac5eb5.01.01
Order  2016-08-11 06:34:42.388  TSLA-OPT-20160812-227.5-P  Updated Internal Position Quantity to 1. Previous: 0                Unspecified      U1644808        
Order  2016-08-11 06:34:41.777  TSLA-OPT-20160812-227.5-P-SMART-100-USD  Auto-trade: TSLA [M] 1 Min #2 | Option Trader | sc.SubmitOrder | Bar start Date-Time: 2016-08-11 06:34:00  118209    Market  22  Buy      Order Sent      U1644808  Open      
Order  2016-08-11 06:11:57.849    Requesting Open orders from trading service                Unspecified      None        
Order  2016-08-11 06:11:52.837    Connected to server                Unspecified      None
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