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Bracket Order Execution Issue in Spreadsheet Study for Trading

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[2025-01-20 17:51:29]
User969373 - Posts: 10
Issue with Bracket Orders in Spreadsheet Study for Trading

Hello,

I am using the Spreadsheet Study for Trading and cannot get a bracket order with Stop: Stop All OCO Groups, Target 1: Target Limit, and Target 2: Target Limit to execute. I have configured this bracket order in the Trade Window, and it works fine for manual trading, but not when auto-trading through the spreadsheet.

When testing with auto-trading, I get an error message on entry, and there is no fill—it simply does not execute. However, as a test, I tried a Stop: Stop All OCO Groups with a single Target: Limit exit, and this works. Orders with just a Stop or just a Target: Limit also work fine in the auto trading with Spreadsheet for trading study.

Please advise on what I might be missing to get this working correctly.

Thank you,
[2025-01-21 17:53:35]
John - SC Support - Posts: 39395
There should not be an issue with this, as long as the Trade Configuration you are setting up is proper in itself.

When you have this issue with the order not executing, then we would need to see your "Trade >> Trade Service Log" in order to see if there is a specific rejection message. Please follow these instructions to get us the log:
Support Board Posting Information: Providing Lines From Trade Service Log
For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
[2025-01-21 21:49:15]
User969373 - Posts: 10
2025-01-21 21:30:04.378 | Interactive Brokers | Requesting Open orders.
2025-01-21 21:30:04.378 | Interactive Brokers | Sent reqAutoOpenOrders request
2025-01-21 21:30:04.392 | Interactive Brokers | Received Open orders end message.
2025-01-21 21:30:08.582 | TradeActivity files query time: 0.000898 seconds. Entries: 0. Current queries: 1
2025-01-21 21:30:09.974 | Denali Data Feed | MaxConnectionsDifferentDevices = 1, NumCurrentConnectionsDifferentDevices = 1
2025-01-21 21:30:09.974 | Denali Data Feed | MaxConnectionsForSameDevice = 3, NumCurrentConnectionsForSameDevice = 1
2025-01-21 21:30:11.184 | Denali Data Feed (Market Orders Data) | MaxConnectionsDifferentDevices = 1, NumCurrentConnectionsDifferentDevices = 1
2025-01-21 21:30:11.184 | Denali Data Feed (Market Orders Data) | MaxConnectionsForSameDevice = 3, NumCurrentConnectionsForSameDevice = 1
2025-01-21 21:30:32.498 | TradeActivity files query time: 0.000488 seconds. Entries: 0. Current queries: 1
2025-01-21 21:30:32.954 | TradeActivity files query time: 0.000531 seconds. Entries: 0. Current queries: 1
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2025-01-21 21:33:00.201 | TradeActivity files query time: 0.000474 seconds. Entries: 0. Current queries: 1
2025-01-21 21:33:49.519 | Cleared global profit/loss management data for Sim1.
2025-01-21 21:33:49.520 | Cleared trade data | Symbol: [Sim]MES-202503-CME-USD | TradeAccount: Sim1
2025-01-21 21:33:49.759 | TradeActivity files query time: 0.240336 seconds. Entries: 0. Current queries: 1
2025-01-21 21:33:49.956 | TradeActivity files query time: 0.135168 seconds. Entries: 0. Current queries: 1
2025-01-21 21:34:06.187 | Auto-trade: Replay 4.00X: MES-202503-CME-USD [CB][M] Delta 120v #1 | DefaultSpreadsheetSystemForTradingStudy | SellEntry | Bar start date-time: 2025-01-17 07:28:03.803 | SellEntry signal is ignored because a Short position exists or working order quantities indicate a potential Short position, and 'Multiple Entries in Same Direction' is not enabled. Position: -1. Position with all working orders: 0. Position with Market working orders: -1
2025-01-21 21:34:07.021 | Auto-trade: Replay 4.00X: MES-202503-CME-USD [CB][M] Delta 120v #1 | DefaultSpreadsheetSystemForTradingStudy | SellEntry | Bar start date-time: 2025-01-17 07:28:03.803 | SellEntry signal is ignored because a Short position exists or working order quantities indicate a potential Short position, and 'Multiple Entries in Same Direction' is not enabled. Position: -1. Position with all working orders: 0. Position with Market working orders: -1
2025-01-21 21:34:07.429 | Auto-trade: Replay 4.00X: MES-202503-CME-USD [CB][M] Delta 120v #1 | DefaultSpreadsheetSystemForTradingStudy | SellEntry | Bar start date-time: 2025-01-17 07:28:11.229 | SellEntry signal is ignored because a Short position exists or working order quantities indicate a potential Short position, and 'Multiple Entries in Same Direction' is not enabled. Position: -1. Position with all working orders: 0. Position with Market working orders: -1
2025-01-21 21:34:12.124 | MES-202503-CME-USD [CB][M] Delta 120v #1 | User order entry | Unable to Flatten/Reverse. Position does not exist. Working non-market orders will be canceled | Symbol: [Sim]MES-202503-CME-USD | TradeAccount: Sim1 *
2025-01-21 21:34:20.354 | TradeActivity files query time: 0.009667 seconds. Entries: 1. Current queries: 1
2025-01-21 21:34:35.609 | Cleared global profit/loss management data for all simulated trade accounts.
2025-01-21 21:34:35.966 | TradeActivity files query time: 0.357273 seconds. Entries: 0. Current queries: 1
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2025-01-21 21:34:37.264 | TradeActivity files query time: 0.000110 seconds. Entries: 0. Current queries: 1
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2025-01-21 21:35:23.902 | TradeActivity files query time: 0.000165 seconds. Entries: 0. Current queries: 1
2025-01-21 21:40:25.454 | Cleared global profit/loss management data for all simulated trade accounts.
2025-01-21 21:40:25.561 | TradeActivity files query time: 0.106690 seconds. Entries: 0. Current queries: 1
2025-01-21 21:40:25.644 | TradeActivity files query time: 0.082845 seconds. Entries: 0. Current queries: 11
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2025-01-21 21:40:25.645 | TradeActivity files query time: 0.000099 seconds. Entries: 0. Current queries: 11
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2025-01-21 21:42:17.954 | Cleared global profit/loss management data for Sim1.
2025-01-21 21:42:17.954 | Cleared trade data | Symbol: [Sim]MES-202503-CME-USD | TradeAccount: Sim1
2025-01-21 21:42:18.021 | TradeActivity files query time: 0.067196 seconds. Entries: 0. Current queries: 1
2025-01-21 21:42:18.101 | TradeActivity files query time: 0.079676 seconds. Entries: 0. Current queries: 1
2025-01-21 21:42:34.301 | Trade Order Error - The order quantity for the Parent is 1 and this is less than the total order quantity of 2 for the Attached Orders. Adjust the order quantities so the parent is greater or equal to the Attached Orders. *
2025-01-21 21:42:46.189 | TradeActivity files query time: 0.026475 seconds. Entries: 0. Current queries: 1
[2025-01-22 16:47:31]
John - SC Support - Posts: 39395
There are two items we see in your log, although we do not know which may be directly related to the issue you are stating:

Auto-trade: Replay 4.00X: MES-202503-CME-USD [CB][M] Delta 120v #1 | DefaultSpreadsheetSystemForTradingStudy | SellEntry | Bar start date-time: 2025-01-17 07:28:03.803 | SellEntry signal is ignored because a Short position exists or working order quantities indicate a potential Short position, and 'Multiple Entries in Same Direction' is not enabled. Position: -1. Position with all working orders: 0. Position with Market working orders: -1

Your spreadsheet is going from False to True in the "Sell Entry" cell. But you already have an existing short position for this symbol and the Spreadsheet System for Trading Input for "Allow Multiple Entries in the Same Direction" is set to "No". Therefore that "Sell Entry" signal is ignored. If you want to add to the existing position, you would need to set the Input for "Allow Multiple Entries in the Same Direction" to "Yes".

Trade Order Error - The order quantity for the Parent is 1 and this is less than the total order quantity of 2 for the Attached Orders. Adjust the order quantities so the parent is greater or equal to the Attached Orders. *

There is a mismatch in the order quantities on the Trade Window. The Parent order has a quantity of 1, but the attached orders have a total quantity of 2. Therefore, the order was not submitted.
For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service:
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[2025-01-22 18:56:17]
User969373 - Posts: 10
Thank you. I have double checked the bracket order through the trade window. the parent order is set to 2 contracts, all oco groups are stop and oco group 1 is target of 1 contract and oco group 2 is also set to 1 target. also I have changed the "Allow Multiple Entries in the Same Direction" to "Yes". this last part is confusing because there are no open orders before entering. I have retested with the change suggested. here is the error message now.

2025-01-22 18:37:46.708 | Interactive Brokers | Requesting Open orders.
2025-01-22 18:37:46.708 | Interactive Brokers | Sent reqAutoOpenOrders request
2025-01-22 18:37:46.711 | Interactive Brokers | Received Open orders end message.
2025-01-22 18:37:51.049 | TradeActivity files query time: 0.000674 seconds. Entries: 0. Current queries: 1
2025-01-22 18:38:11.905 | TradeActivity files query time: 0.000405 seconds. Entries: 0. Current queries: 1
2025-01-22 18:38:12.096 | TradeActivity files query time: 0.000340 seconds. Entries: 0. Current queries: 2
2025-01-22 18:38:18.562 | TradeActivity files query time: 0.000379 seconds. Entries: 0. Current queries: 3
2025-01-22 18:38:24.308 | TradeActivity files query time: 0.000282 seconds. Entries: 0. Current queries: 1
2025-01-22 18:38:24.411 | TradeActivity files query time: 0.000394 seconds. Entries: 0. Current queries: 2
2025-01-22 18:38:24.603 | TradeActivity files query time: 0.000593 seconds. Entries: 0. Current queries: 3
2025-01-22 18:38:24.743 | TradeActivity files query time: 0.000745 seconds. Entries: 0. Current queries: 4
2025-01-22 18:38:24.818 | TradeActivity files query time: 0.000427 seconds. Entries: 0. Current queries: 5
2025-01-22 18:38:24.863 | TradeActivity files query time: 0.000310 seconds. Entries: 0. Current queries: 6
2025-01-22 18:38:44.997 | TradeActivity files query time: 0.001850 seconds. Entries: 0. Current queries: 7
2025-01-22 18:39:37.185 | Denali Data Feed | MaxConnectionsDifferentDevices = 1, NumCurrentConnectionsDifferentDevices = 1
2025-01-22 18:39:37.185 | Denali Data Feed | MaxConnectionsForSameDevice = 3, NumCurrentConnectionsForSameDevice = 1
2025-01-22 18:39:38.449 | Denali Data Feed (Market Orders Data) | MaxConnectionsDifferentDevices = 1, NumCurrentConnectionsDifferentDevices = 1
2025-01-22 18:39:38.449 | Denali Data Feed (Market Orders Data) | MaxConnectionsForSameDevice = 3, NumCurrentConnectionsForSameDevice = 1
2025-01-22 18:39:52.620 | TradeActivity files query time: 0.000534 seconds. Entries: 0. Current queries: 1
2025-01-22 18:40:00.140 | TradeActivity files query time: 0.000383 seconds. Entries: 0. Current queries: 1
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2025-01-22 18:41:20.337 | TradeActivity files query time: 0.000396 seconds. Entries: 0. Current queries: 1
2025-01-22 18:42:16.983 | Trade Order Error - The order quantity for the Parent is 1 and this is less than the total order quantity of 2 for the Attached Orders. Adjust the order quantities so the parent is greater or equal to the Attached Orders. *
2025-01-22 18:42:18.211 | Trade Order Error - The order quantity for the Parent is 1 and this is less than the total order quantity of 2 for the Attached Orders. Adjust the order quantities so the parent is greater or equal to the Attached Orders. *
2025-01-22 18:42:19.430 | Trade Order Error - The order quantity for the Parent is 1 and this is less than the total order quantity of 2 for the Attached Orders. Adjust the order quantities so the parent is greater or equal to the Attached Orders. *
2025-01-22 18:42:21.862 | Trade Order Error - The order quantity for the Parent is 1 and this is less than the total order quantity of 2 for the Attached Orders. Adjust the order quantities so the parent is greater or equal to the Attached Orders. *
2025-01-22 18:42:23.088 | Trade Order Error - The order quantity for the Parent is 1 and this is less than the total order quantity of 2 for the Attached Orders. Adjust the order quantities so the parent is greater or equal to the Attached Orders. *
2025-01-22 18:42:24.300 | Trade Order Error - The order quantity for the Parent is 1 and this is less than the total order quantity of 2 for the Attached Orders. Adjust the order quantities so the parent is greater or equal to the Attached Orders. *
2025-01-22 18:42:28.776 | Trade Order Error - The order quantity for the Parent is 1 and this is less than the total order quantity of 2 for the Attached Orders. Adjust the order quantities so the parent is greater or equal to the Attached Orders. *
2025-01-22 18:42:29.582 | Trade Order Error - The order quantity for the Parent is 1 and this is less than the total order quantity of 2 for the Attached Orders. Adjust the order quantities so the parent is greater or equal to the Attached Orders. *
2025-01-22 18:42:30.391 | Trade Order Error - The order quantity for the Parent is 1 and this is less than the total order quantity of 2 for the Attached Orders. Adjust the order quantities so the parent is greater or equal to the Attached Orders. *
2025-01-22 18:42:31.200 | Trade Order Error - The order quantity for the Parent is 1 and this is less than the total order quantity of 2 for the Attached Orders. Adjust the order quantities so the parent is greater or equal to the Attached Orders. *
2025-01-22 18:42:34.870 | Trade Order Error - The order quantity for the Parent is 1 and this is less than the total order quantity of 2 for the Attached Orders. Adjust the order quantities so the parent is greater or equal to the Attached Orders. *
2025-01-22 18:42:38.116 | Trade Order Error - The order quantity for the Parent is 1 and this is less than the total order quantity of 2 for the Attached Orders. Adjust the order quantities so the parent is greater or equal to the Attached Orders. *
2025-01-22 18:42:39.334 | Trade Order Error - The order quantity for the Parent is 1 and this is less than the total order quantity of 2 for the Attached Orders. Adjust the order quantities so the parent is greater or equal to the Attached Orders. *
2025-01-22 18:43:04.515 | Trade Order Error - The order quantity for the Parent is 1 and this is less than the total order quantity of 2 for the Attached Orders. Adjust the order quantities so the parent is greater or equal to the Attached Orders. *
2025-01-22 18:43:52.666 | MES-202503-CME-USD [CB][M] Delta 120v #1 | User order entry | Unable to Flatten/Reverse. Position does not exist | Symbol: [Sim]MES-202503-CME-USD | TradeAccount: Sim1 *
2025-01-22 18:45:20.656 | Cleared global profit/loss management data for Sim1.
2025-01-22 18:45:20.656 | Cleared trade data | Symbol: [Sim]MES-202503-CME-USD | TradeAccount: Sim1
2025-01-22 18:45:22.539 | TradeActivity files query time: 1.882648 seconds. Entries: 0. Current queries: 1
2025-01-22 18:45:23.587 | TradeActivity files query time: 1.013625 seconds. Entries: 0. Current queries: 1
2025-01-22 18:45:36.950 | Trade Order Error - The order quantity for the Parent is 1 and this is less than the total order quantity of 2 for the Attached Orders. Adjust the order quantities so the parent is greater or equal to the Attached Orders. *
2025-01-22 18:45:45.723 | TradeActivity files query time: 0.016370 seconds. Entries: 0. Current queries: 1
2025-01-22 18:46:01.043 | Trade Order Error - The order quantity for the Parent is 1 and this is less than the total order quantity of 2 for the Attached Orders. Adjust the order quantities so the parent is greater or equal to the Attached Orders. *
2025-01-22 18:47:31.340 | Cleared global profit/loss management data for Sim1.
2025-01-22 18:47:31.340 | Cleared trade data | Symbol: [Sim]MES-202503-CME-USD | TradeAccount: Sim1
2025-01-22 18:47:31.535 | TradeActivity files query time: 0.194793 seconds. Entries: 0. Current queries: 1
2025-01-22 18:47:31.741 | TradeActivity files query time: 0.141143 seconds. Entries: 0. Current queries: 1
2025-01-22 18:47:47.638 | Trade Order Error - The order quantity for the Parent is 1 and this is less than the total order quantity of 2 for the Attached Orders. Adjust the order quantities so the parent is greater or equal to the Attached Orders. *
2025-01-22 18:47:48.051 | Trade Order Error - The order quantity for the Parent is 1 and this is less than the total order quantity of 2 for the Attached Orders. Adjust the order quantities so the parent is greater or equal to the Attached Orders. *
2025-01-22 18:47:49.266 | Trade Order Error - The order quantity for the Parent is 1 and this is less than the total order quantity of 2 for the Attached Orders. Adjust the order quantities so the parent is greater or equal to the Attached Orders. *
2025-01-22 18:47:59.967 | TradeActivity files query time: 0.000367 seconds. Entries: 0. Current queries: 1
2025-01-22 18:55:20.665 | Cleared global profit/loss management data for Sim1.
2025-01-22 18:55:20.665 | Cleared trade data | Symbol: [Sim]MES-202503-CME-USD | TradeAccount: Sim1
2025-01-22 18:55:20.915 | TradeActivity files query time: 0.249475 seconds. Entries: 0. Current queries: 1
2025-01-22 18:55:21.089 | TradeActivity files query time: 0.160968 seconds. Entries: 0. Current queries: 1
2025-01-22 18:55:36.958 | Trade Order Error - The order quantity for the Parent is 1 and this is less than the total order quantity of 2 for the Attached Orders. Adjust the order quantities so the parent is greater or equal to the Attached Orders. *
2025-01-22 18:55:38.173 | Trade Order Error - The order quantity for the Parent is 1 and this is less than the total order quantity of 2 for the Attached Orders. Adjust the order quantities so the parent is greater or equal to the Attached Orders. *
2025-01-22 18:55:38.584 | Trade Order Error - The order quantity for the Parent is 1 and this is less than the total order quantity of 2 for the Attached Orders. Adjust the order quantities so the parent is greater or equal to the Attached Orders. *
[2025-01-22 19:15:06]
User969373 - Posts: 10
hello again. I apologize for a double message. It seems that in the spreadsheet system for trading in column J row 26 "Order Quantity (read/wright)". This is critical to add the parent order quantity. It seems there will be a learning curve in the transition to spreadsheet system for trading regarding user interfacing. Thanks for your quick responses. I do appreciate it.
[2025-01-23 00:32:00]
Sawtooth - Posts: 4209
J26 in the Spreadsheet System for Trading study overrides the Trade Window's order quantity.

If J26 is blank, the default quantity will be 1, even if the Trade Window order quantity is not.

IOW, you must use J26 for the order quantity when using the Spreadsheet System for Trading study.

If you need a separate order quantity for exits in L3/N3, you can use J82/J83, which also overrides the Trade Window's order quantity.

Spreadsheet Systems, Alerts and Automated Trading: Order Quantity [J26]
Spreadsheet Systems, Alerts and Automated Trading: Use Separate Exit Order Quantity [J82]
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2025-01-23 00:38:35

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