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Date/Time: Tue, 26 Nov 2024 20:32:49 +0000
Adjusting / moving drawings after futures rollover
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| [2023-10-24 01:46:47] |
| EverEdge - Posts: 15 |
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Hello, I'm finding a couple of past threads on related issues but nothing that answers my question. I track multiple futures markets and the charts (whether they are time-based, non-linear, TPO, VP, etc.) are heavily marked with drawings (e.g. extended rectangles, horizontal lines). At rollover time, I perform volume-based continuous back-adjusted rollover. Of course, the data moves by the amount of the rollover premium, but the drawings do not. Having to manually redraw or move numerous drawings going back 2 years once a quarter for a number of markets (and more frequently for products like crude) is extremely labor-intensive. I have found the following instructions under "adjusting chart drawings to match futures contract rollover difference" https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/ChangingFuturesContract.html#AdjustingDrawingsMatchRollover. But I cannot get it work consistently, and if the feature is not reliable, the only option is to do it by hand so you're not trading off inaccurate data. Specifically, the issues I'm encountering are as follows. Not all on one chart, but this is a list of all issues I've seen over time across all charts: 1. Some drawings don't show up on the list. The list of drawings in the "tools -> manage charts drawings window' is smaller than the actual drawings visible on the chart. I played with the data limiting to load more days, but some drawings are not always picked up on some charts. 2. I have to manually select all drawings, and there are a 3-digit number of them going back as much as 2 years per chart. Please consider this a feature request (select all), unless I'm missing something. 3. Sometimes, some of the selected drawings do not move with the adjustment. 4. Sometimes, all the drawings do move, but the locations are not accurate despite the roll premium being entered correctly. This is especially true if it's a negative number. These issues are intermittent, and it is not rollover time, so I cannot easily reproduce them. But I figured I'd start this thread because if I can develop confidence in the reliability and accuracy of this feature before the next rollover, it'd save a ton of time thereafter. Am I missing something or doing something wrong as per above, or else what is your best guess as to what could be intermittently causing some of these issues so I can try to troubleshoot them myself? Thanks! |
| [2023-10-25 16:09:27] |
| Sierra_Chart Engineering - Posts: 17184 |
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1. These would be drawings copied from other at charts and they would not be adjusted. 2. This is currently available in the latest release. It is not likely we can help with anything else. If we are not able to reproduce the problem, and we cannot, and being that this functionality is very simple and straightforward we do not see how we can help with it. Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing Date Time Of Last Edit: 2023-10-25 16:18:29
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| [2023-10-25 16:29:03] |
| Sierra_Chart Engineering - Posts: 17184 |
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We also would recommend not adjusting drawings for more than one symbol at a time. Only adjust one specific symbol at a time. And update to the latest release to see if that makes any difference. Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2023-11-01 17:27:02] |
| EverEdge - Posts: 15 |
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Hello, Thanks for this. 1. I am aware that drawings copied from other charts won't move. I'm only referring to native drawings. I think this may be related to your last comment about adjusting more than one symbol and/or multiple charts at a time. Please see below. 2. Good to know. I will also test the new version by duplicating some charts and arbitrarily adjusting drawings up/down since it is not rollover time. This rather obscure functionality is not a trivial issue at all as it is one of the most time-consuming tasks I have to do regularly on SC. If the functionality to automatically move drawings cannot be trusted to work reliably, I have to manually move them in order not to risk trading with inaccurate data. My profile charts are marked up with hundreds of drawings -- composites, naked VPOCs, HVNs, poor extremes, single prints, etc. - so that they can then be superimposed on lower time frame charts of all persuasions. I've seen many other traders do the same. So imagine manually moving a three-digit number of drawings times multiple profile charts times multiple markets/symbols. For the indexes alone (which have the largest number of associated profile charts), this takes half a day x 4 times a year = 2 whole days a year manually moving and adjusting drawings. I'd be willing to pay a lot of money (as in donate to your development) to make sure this functionality is rock-solid and can be 100% trusted to be accurate and to not miss any drawings. Thanks for listening! As far as your latest comment re: not moving more than one symbol at a time, that sounds right. When I get the prompt "symbol needs to roll over, click to roll over", etc., and go with it, the originally described behavior tends to occur more frequently. When I get it on multiple symbols with multiple charts each at the same time in the same chartbook, it gets worse. When I then adjust the drawings after the fact, some seem to get left behind, some move inaccurately, etc. If, instead, I manually change the symbol and adjust one chart at a time, and one symbol at a time, there are much fewer issues. This is anecdotal, but what you said definitely has the ring of truth, though I have no idea why. Hope this helps fix it for everybody. |
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