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Your Market Depth Studies have a MAJOR flaw!
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| [2022-05-08 18:44:22] |
| User839162 - Posts: 87 |
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I’m not exactly sure what’s all involved but can we please get real-time continuously updating depth studies? As of right now the Market Depth Historical Graph and Bid Ask Depth Bars do not display/update in a continuous fashion (like the DOM). They update when either a new bar is created or when an order is executed. Let me explain why this is a MAJOR issue. Let's say I'm trading a slow instrument (ZN). Price trades up and stalls. No orders are being executed and a new candle has not printed, BUT a few prices away someone puts 500 on the bid. IF that bid of 500 disappears before an order is executed or a new candle is created, it will never be shown on the Depth Graph. Therefor the Depth Graph is showing incorrect data. This data will also be missing from the bid ask depth bars. I thought I could somewhat get around this problem by using 1 second bars BUT THOSE DON’T PRINT EVERY SECOND?? Your 1 second bars will not print if no orders are executing. Why? Without the fluidity of depth in ZN it causes bursts of action and sudden changes in depth that can’t be seen before it up ticks or down ticks. All of your depth studies are inaccurate if they are not calculated in real-time and it especially hinders us who use these studies in slow instruments. PLEASE fix this. |
| [2022-05-08 19:55:17] |
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Refer to the documentation here regarding this: Market Depth Historical Graph: Market Depth Historical Graph Timing in Relation to Chart Bar Date-Times This is not really true like you say: They update when either a new bar is created or when an order is executed.
The specific behavior is documented here: Market Depth Historical Graph: Market Depth Historical Graph Timing in Relation to Chart Bar Date-Times IF that bid of 500 disappears before an order is executed or a new candle is created, it will never be shown on the Depth Graph. This is not necessarily true. It depends upon the Input settings and whether this was a maximum depth value at the price level.This is definitively not true at all: This data will also be missing from the bid ask depth bars.
The data is absolutely not missing. It is processed and displayed but assigned to the appropriate chart bar when that bar is available. The documentation explains all of this. And the solution. Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2022-05-08 22:59:47] |
| User839162 - Posts: 87 |
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I followed that first link you posted and added the -BID_ASK_TRADE_SYNC to the ZN symbol. It looks exactly like this in my symbol settings (ZNM22-CBOT-BID_ASK_TRADE_SYNC). I then followed the instructions underneath it to create a 1t chart. I'm still seeing the depth graph not matching up with the DOM. Please explain to me how I can see the Depth Graph update in real-time with every change of depth? Everything I've tried does not work and I see differences between the two. I'm attaching an image so you can see that the Data Recording Suffixes do the same thing. |
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| [2022-05-08 23:44:46] |
| User839162 - Posts: 87 |
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I also don't understand why you would make this thread hidden? Plain and simple the Heatmap does not match the DOM. This is not necessarily true. It depends upon the Input settings and whether this was a maximum depth value at the price level.
I've witnessed levels on the heatmap that are showing more than what the maximum depth value is and it doesn't update if that current depth value drops below before an order is executed or a candle is created. This is a problem. Date Time Of Last Edit: 2022-05-08 23:47:19
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| [2022-05-09 14:13:43] |
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In the latest prerelease, we have made a change to -BID_ASK_TRADE_SYNC to also record data when there is a change in bid/ask quantities. This should solve the problem. We have not yet tested this but will be testing it today. We are also checking on another thing but we do not expect to find any further issue. Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2022-05-10 14:40:51] |
| Sierra_Chart Engineering - Posts: 17233 |
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The functionality that you are referring to is fully documented here: Market Depth Historical Graph: Market Depth Historical Graph Timing in Relation to Chart Bar Date-Times There is a solution by using a special data recording which is documented in the section linked above. Here is an example of this: https://www.sierrachart.com/image.php?Image=1652192303728.png You must be running the very latest release which is 2393. This recording mode has been enhanced for this specific purpose. I also don't understand why you would make this thread hidden?
Since you are making statements which are actually not technically true in some cases and asserting them as if they are true.The fundamental issue is you are using a very short timeframe per bar. If the timeframe per bar were like 10 minutes, you would not notice any problem. Other than at the end of 10 minutes for a short duration. The release that we did previously, in 2392 related to this recording suffix for the Market Depth Historical Graph still did not work properly. It does now and you need to run 2393 or higher. Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing Date Time Of Last Edit: 2022-05-10 14:46:04
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| [2022-05-10 16:27:37] |
| User839162 - Posts: 87 |
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It's working great now. I have one other question. With this update it has made the depth bars look much different because it's recording the depth the entire time (which is good). But I did notice that when I Download Depth Data From Date-Time it will download the "old" depth that doesn't continuously update. Is there any way to download the depth for the -BID_ASK_TRADE_SYNC symbol that continuously updates? |
| [2022-05-10 17:21:30] |
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No this is not supported: Is there any way to download the depth for the -BID_ASK_TRADE_SYNC symbol that continuously updates?
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2022-05-10 17:39:00] |
| User839162 - Posts: 87 |
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No this is not supported:
Is there any way to download the depth for the -BID_ASK_TRADE_SYNC symbol that continuously updates?
Please consider this in the future. It would be nice to be able to backtest the correct depth data. |
| [2022-05-11 07:37:01] |
| User311344 - Posts: 142 |
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How does this issue relate to Denali Delayed Data? I get that when it was downloaded from Date-Time it doesnt have continous updates, but does it have continuous updates when being pulled directly from stream (as delayed data)? Date Time Of Last Edit: 2022-05-11 08:40:10
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| [2022-05-11 17:14:23] |
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The Market Depth Historical Graph does work with the Delayed Exchange Data Feed: Delayed Exchange Data Feed Everything will be identical except the data will be delayed 10 to 15 minutes. If you are seeing something different, we need to know. Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2022-05-12 11:16:08] |
| User311344 - Posts: 142 |
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You said that BID_ASK_TRADE_SYNC switch is not supported when data being downloaded with Download Depth Data from Date/Time so Im asking if it's supported for Denali DELAYED Data or ONLY for LIVE Denali data?
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2022-05-12 11:17:10
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| [2022-05-12 11:25:24] |
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The historical data downloaded in no case is going to use this type of recording mode: BID_ASK_TRADE_SYNC Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2022-05-13 06:39:01] |
| User311344 - Posts: 142 |
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The historical data downloaded in no case is going to use this type of recording mode:
BID_ASK_TRADE_SYNC Yes but what about DELAYED Denali data being pulled from datafeed? Would it use this type of recording and look EXACTLY the same as true LIVE Denali data? |
| [2022-05-13 07:17:16] |
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Yes.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2023-01-17 03:14:23] |
| voided - Posts: 45 |
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If I'm reading this thread correctly, not all state changes in the order book are written to the .depth files? I have recently been using the .depth files, and noticed that there are many missing records.
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| [2023-01-17 03:57:50] |
| Sierra_Chart Engineering - Posts: 17233 |
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No that is not true: not all state changes in the order book are written to the .depth files?
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2023-01-18 00:34:06] |
| voided - Posts: 45 |
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I must be making a mistake, then. I have been testing my program with CLG23_FUT_CME on the .depth file for January 11th: CLG23_FUT_CME.2023-01-11.depth I read and parse the depth records. After reading your post, I checked the timestamps, printing each records timestamp, in the sequence read from disk, along with the duration (in seconds) since the previous record. Several had negative durations: ----- 3882564794899000 -0.393 3882573483952000 -1.700 3882579410123000 -0.026 3882580289013000 -0.644 3882595486811000 -0.027 3882596068603000 -0.129 3882597650570000 -0.877 3882599583655000 -0.137 3882601154027000 -0.063 3882602609175000 -0.165 3882604751565000 -0.019 3882605352708000 -0.081 3882606215738000 -0.026 3882607331439000 -0.030 3882608099468000 -0.008 3882609234477000 -0.022 3882612036599000 -0.094 3882612583541000 -0.023 3882613812842000 -0.003 3882617143484000 -0.006 3882617437276000 -0.008 3882619084757000 -0.137 3882621050867000 -0.555 3882621598414000 -0.237 3882622719117000 -0.007 3882623830650000 -0.024 3882625978142000 -0.014 3882627429297000 -0.198 3882628440203000 -0.069 3882628942626000 -0.617 3882629886540000 -0.415 3882631069988000 -0.427 3882631356149000 -0.110 3882633649364000 -0.099 3882634415297000 -3.419 3882634950445000 -2.342 3882636000080000 -305.156 ----- I also noticed some extremely large gaps, during which the intraday .scid files recorded many trades. A full list of depth records with more than 10 seconds since the prior record follows: ----- 3882614052330951 164.757 3882615577679513 1379.228 3882616627764529 974.451 3882617143489678 428.746 3882617437284224 206.422 3882619084893547 1565.991 3882620012736179 850.890 3882621051421557 963.978 3882621598650844 459.398 3882622719124114 1022.769 3882623830674489 1042.644 3882624178089245 262.180 3882625978155526 1717.477 3882627429495371 1366.029 3882628053722469 476.641 3882628440272371 310.200 3882628943243471 403.628 3882629886955481 856.914 3882631070415447 1100.475 3882631356258940 136.383 3882633649463388 2218.236 3882634418715692 668.591 3882634952786561 400.066 3882635862949969 832.561 3882636305235979 321.985 3882638700426000 2700.346 3882638772532000 48.775 3882638790394000 17.862 3882638830344000 39.950 3882638869399000 39.055 3882638893349000 21.514 3882638938351000 45.002 3882638963351000 25.000 3882638975707000 12.356 3882639000351000 18.000 3882639019352000 19.001 3882639037352000 18.000 3882639071353000 31.000 3882639104019000 26.665 3882639121203000 15.088 3882639166356000 17.001 3882639183356000 13.000 3882639195200000 11.844 3882639247357000 47.733 3882639262358000 15.001 3882639277358000 11.000 3882639298358000 16.000 3882639319021000 15.000 3882639332101000 13.080 3882639367022000 15.000 3882639582009000 19.769 3882640234350000 10.550 3882640949746000 12.867 3882641494432000 10.265 3882641965455000 12.540 3882642662214000 12.811 3882642742091000 10.002 3882642946160000 16.128 3882642960183000 14.023 3882642998780000 16.471 ----- As you can see, there are gaps of up to 2700 seconds (45 minutes) between depth records. So my questions are: 1. Are the records not guaranteed to be in sequence? 2a. Why are there such long intervals between some of the records? 2b. If these intervals indicate missing data, is there any way to obtain it? Regarding 2b, I tried right-clicking on an intraday chart for CLG23_FUT_CME from a point prior to Jan 11th but within the 30 day window (i.e., January 2nd 2023, 15:00) and selecting "Download Depth Data from Date-time," but nothing changed in my depth files. I had deleted files prior to January 6th, for example, and they were not recreated. None of the other existing depth files past that point changed, either. Here are the entries in the message log subsequent to selecting "Download Depth Data from Date-time": ----- Triggering next historical data download in queue. | 2023-01-17 17:06:57.787 No download requests in the queue to start downloads for. | 2023-01-17 17:06:57.787 CLG23_FUT_CME[M] 30 Min #18 | Reloading chart. | 2023-01-17 17:06:57.827 Socket (5) | Socket gracefully closed by remote side. | 2023-01-17 17:06:57.830 Socket (5) | Closed. | 2023-01-17 17:06:57.831 CLG23_FUT_CME[M] #2 | Reloading chart. | 2023-01-17 17:06:57.835 CLG23_FUT_CME[M] #2 | StartDateTimeForLoadingOrderFills: 00:00:00 | 2023-01-17 17:06:57.913 Opened cached Depth file: C:\SierraChart\Data\MarketDepthData\CLG23_FUT_CME.2023-01-18.depth | 2023-01-17 17:06:58.976 DTC Client socket (2) | Timed out waiting for shutdown. Performing an immediate socket close. | 2023-01-17 17:07:10.254 DTC Client socket (2) | Closed. | 2023-01-17 17:07:10.254 Opened cached Intraday file: C:\SierraChart\Data\NGH23-NGJ23.FUT_SPREAD.CME.scid. Thread ID: 1584 | 2023-01-17 17:07:24.332 DTC Client socket (2) | Deleting network socket now after delay. | 2023-01-17 17:07:40.273 Added historical Market depth data request for CLG23_FUT_CME to the queue. | 2023-01-17 17:08:21.672 Market depth data recording state for symbol CLG23_FUT_CME is set to download 'Pending'. | 2023-01-17 17:08:21.672 Triggering next historical data download in queue. | 2023-01-17 17:08:21.672 HD Request # 168 | Downloading Market depth data for CLG23_FUT_CME. Service: nymex.marketdepth. | 2023-01-17 17:08:21.673 HD Request # 168 | Download start date-time: 2023-01-12 17:08:21.000000. | 2023-01-17 17:08:21.682 HD Request # 168 | Using server: ds28.sierracharts.com port 10149 | 2023-01-17 17:08:21.683 Socket (2) | Creating socket. | 2023-01-17 17:08:21.683 Socket (2) | New receive buffer size: 5242880 | 2023-01-17 17:08:21.683 Socket (2) | Connecting to IP: 142.215.18.147. | 2023-01-17 17:08:21.683 HD Request # 168 | Setting DTC encoding to Binary VLS | 2023-01-17 17:08:21.786 HD Request # 168 | Sending historical data logon request message. | 2023-01-17 17:08:21.786 HD Request # 168 | Requesting market depth data. Start date-time: 2023-01-12 17:08:21. Symbol: CLG23 | 2023-01-17 17:08:22.365 HD Request # 168 | Decompressing data. | 2023-01-17 17:08:22.445 HD Request # 168 | Receiving market depth data for CLG23_FUT_CME starting at 2023-01-12 17:08:21.000000 | 2023-01-17 17:08:22.456 HD Request # 168 | Truncating file to starting date-time of 2023-01-12 17:08:21.000000. | 2023-01-17 17:08:22.456 HD Request # 168 | Timestamp of first market depth data file record written: 2023-01-12 17:08:21.000000. | 2023-01-17 17:08:22.667 Socket (2) | CloseSocket call. | 2023-01-17 17:08:54.955 Historical data download thread signaled to stop. | 2023-01-17 17:08:54.955 Socket (2) | Shutdown started. Waiting for graceful close. | 2023-01-17 17:08:54.955 HD Request # 168 | Received 16337566 Market depth data records from 2023-01-12 17:08:21.000000 to 2023-01-17 17:08:51.521000 (5.0 days) and wrote 16337566 records for CLG23_FUT_CME | 2023-01-17 17:08:54.955 HD Request # 168 | Completion time: 33s. | 2023-01-17 17:08:54.955 HD Request # 168 | Market depth data download complete for CLG23_FUT_CME. Unique request ID: 168 | 2023-01-17 17:08:54.955 Removing historical data download ID 168. | 2023-01-17 17:08:54.955 Real-time market depth file updates started for CLG23_FUT_CME | 2023-01-17 17:08:54.955 Opened cached Depth file: C:\SierraChart\Data\MarketDepthData\CLG23_FUT_CME.2023-01-18.depth | 2023-01-17 17:08:54.961 CLG23_FUT_CME[M] #2 | Flagging to reload Intraday data on market depth download completion. | 2023-01-17 17:08:54.961 CLG23_FUT_CME[M] 30 Min #18 | Flagging to reload Intraday data on market depth download completion. | 2023-01-17 17:08:54.961 Triggering next historical data download in queue. | 2023-01-17 17:08:54.961 No download requests in the queue to start downloads for. | 2023-01-17 17:08:54.961 Socket (2) | Socket gracefully closed by remote side. | 2023-01-17 17:08:55.005 Socket (2) | Closed. | 2023-01-17 17:08:55.005 CLG23_FUT_CME[M] #2 | Reloading chart. | 2023-01-17 17:08:55.009 CLG23_FUT_CME[M] 30 Min #18 | Reloading chart. | 2023-01-17 17:08:55.017 CLG23_FUT_CME[M] #2 | StartDateTimeForLoadingOrderFills: 00:00:00 | 2023-01-17 17:08:55.088 Opened cached Depth file: C:\SierraChart\Data\MarketDepthData\CLG23_FUT_CME.2023-01-18.depth | 2023-01-17 17:08:55.474 Opened cached Intraday file: C:\SierraChart\Data\CLQ23-CLU23.FUT_SPREAD.CME.scid. Thread ID: 1584 | 2023-01-17 17:10:20.304 ----- It appears to have only touched the depth files for 1-18 and 1-17, despite files from 1-6 through 1-18 existing. Thanks for your help. edit: And one related question. In order to maintain the correct order book state, is it enough to parse the depth records alone? Or do trades need to be subtracted from the existing quantities at each level? I was under the assumption that every change to the quantity at each level would come from the add/mod/delete depth record commands, but if I also need to subtract the trades, that would be nice to know. Date Time Of Last Edit: 2023-01-18 01:12:50
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| [2023-01-18 03:14:23] |
| Sierra_Chart Engineering - Posts: 17233 |
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1. Yes they are in sequence. 2. We can only say to make sure there is no missing data by re-download the data: Market Depth Historical Graph: Downloading Of Historical Market Depth Data It appears to have only touched the depth files for 1-18 and 1-17, despite files from 1-6 through 1-18 existing. Check this setting:Sierra Chart Server Settings: Maximum Historical Market Depth Days to Download (Global Settings >> Sierra Chart Server Settings >> General >> General) What actually is recorded is the market depth data stream to Sierra Chart in real time. And periodically there is also a snapshot recorded. Like every 10 or 15 minutes. That snapshot is not sent to Sierra Chart. Maybe you are seeing slightly out of order timestamps related to the snapshot. We would have to check on that. But just ignore the timestamps with the snapshot data. Several had negative durations: We do not see this at all. Those numbers you list are in ascending order. And how do you get a fractional number from an integer?We checked this file across all three servers that provide this data and they have the exact data on all three: CLG23_FUT_CME.2023-01-11.depth Yes: And one related question. In order to maintain the correct order book state, is it enough to parse the depth records alone?
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing Date Time Of Last Edit: 2023-01-18 03:16:41
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| [2023-01-18 05:43:32] |
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Thank you for the response. I will check out the links. We do not see this at all. Those numbers you list are in ascending order. And how do you get a fractional number from an integer? Sorry for the confusion. The timestamps I printed are only for the records that had negative duration since the prior record -- I omitted the rest of the stream. These records appear at various places throughout the file. As for the fractional durations (second column), these are in seconds. So, I divided the microsecond durations by one million. Here is the context surrounding the record that appeared at 3882636000080000, 305 seconds before the previous record. Looking at the data again, it actually looks like the record at 3882636305235979 was the one out of sequence. ----- 3882635982385000 0.037 3882635982385000 0.000 3882635982385000 0.000 3882635982385000 0.000 3882635982385000 0.000 3882635982385000 0.000 3882635982385000 0.000 3882635982385000 0.000 3882635982385000 0.000 3882635982386000 0.001 3882635982386000 0.000 3882635982387000 0.001 3882635982457000 0.070 3882635983230000 0.773 3882635983251000 0.021 3882636305235979 321.985 3882636000080000 -305.156 3882636000080000 0.000 3882636000080000 0.000 3882636000080000 0.000 3882636000080000 0.000 3882636000080000 0.000 3882636000080000 0.000 3882636000080000 0.000 3882636000080000 0.000 3882636000080000 0.000 3882636000080000 0.000 3882636000080000 0.000 3882636000080000 0.000 3882636000080000 0.000 3882636000080000 0.000 3882636000080000 0.000 3882636000080000 0.000 ----- And here is a portion of the file showing a gap of 2700 seconds between two records: ----- 3882636000080000 0.000 3882636000080000 0.000 3882636000080000 0.000 3882636000080000 0.000 3882636000080000 0.000 3882636000080000 0.000 3882636000080000 0.000 3882636000080000 0.000 3882636000080000 0.000 3882636000080000 0.000 3882636000080000 0.000 3882636000080000 0.000 3882636000080000 0.000 3882636000080000 0.000 3882636000080000 0.000 3882638700426000 2700.346 3882638700426000 0.000 3882638700426000 0.000 3882638700426000 0.000 3882638700426000 0.000 3882638700426000 0.000 3882638700426000 0.000 3882638700426000 0.000 3882638700426000 0.000 3882638700426000 0.000 3882638700426000 0.000 3882638700426000 0.000 3882638700426000 0.000 ----- Perhaps this has to do with the snapshot record you mentioned. I will take a closer look at it. If you would like to see the whole file, which shows every record in the sequence I find it in the file, with timestamp in the first column, and the duration in seconds since the last record in the second column, I've uploaded it here: https://mega.nz/file/MO8VUCiY#Cy2XkKFHWR7mFpdIGFSx1vTosSckzHynpIg8phbyp44 Edit: Also, how do i identify a snapshot? Is it something to do with the FLAG_END_OF_BATCH field? Date Time Of Last Edit: 2023-01-18 06:21:46
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| [2023-01-18 22:51:23] |
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Okay, after following your instructions to increase the "Max Historical Market Depth Days to Download" setting from its prior value (5) to 30, I was able to re-download the file for 2023-01-11. It increase from ~50 MB to ~180 MB. There are no more negative durations (records out of sequence). There aren't many > 10 second gaps either; however the 2700 second gap is still there. It appears that is due to the trading halt: ----- depth 3882636000080000 2023-01-11 22:00:00.080000 0.000 depth 3882636000080000 2023-01-11 22:00:00.080000 0.000 depth 3882636000080000 2023-01-11 22:00:00.080000 0.000 depth 3882636000080000 2023-01-11 22:00:00.080000 0.000 depth 3882636000080000 2023-01-11 22:00:00.080000 0.000 depth 3882638700426000 2023-01-11 22:45:00.426000 2700.346 depth 3882638700426000 2023-01-11 22:45:00.426000 0.000 depth 3882638700426000 2023-01-11 22:45:00.426000 0.000 depth 3882638700426000 2023-01-11 22:45:00.426000 0.000 depth 3882638700426000 2023-01-11 22:45:00.426000 0.000 ----- So, tentatively it looks like everything is good. I am still wondering why the file had missing / out of order records before, however, and how I can detect this and alert myself to re-download. Scanning the file for out of sequence records seems like one way, since that is easy to check. But missing records is harder to tell. I suppose for now my questions are all answered, except for how to detect records belonging to snapshot. Or any other hints about how to know records might be missing. Thanks again for your help. Date Time Of Last Edit: 2023-01-18 23:06:34
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| voided - Posts: 45 |
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The depth files all seem to be OK after a re-download. However, I have encountered a new problem. Right-clicking on an intraday chart and selecting "Download Depth Data From Date-Time" does not work for spreads. Furthermore, I have tested the depth files for various calendar spreads that my instance recorded this week, and they all have missing records. I have confirmed that "Global Settings >> Symbol Settings >> Record Market Depth Data" is set to "yes" for both "CL?##_FUT_CME" and "CL?##-CL?##.FUT_SPREAD.CME," for example. When I initiate a re-download from an intraday chart for CL, the message log shows messages about downloading depth files, and the files are updated accordingly. However, when I initiate a re-download from an intraday chart for a spread, nothing appears in the message log, and no data is downloaded. I have the same setup in my chartbook for both CL and the CL spread: a 30-minute intraday chart and a DOM for each. After reviewing the documentation, I don't see any relevant setting that is different between the two. Given that the spread files are initially incomplete and I do not have a way to re-download them, it seems there is no way to get accurate depth files for spreads. I have tested this across several symbols. |
| [2023-01-26 00:25:00] |
| Sierra_Chart Engineering - Posts: 17233 |
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We will write up documentation for how to identify a snapshot of market depth data. There is no historical market depth data maintained for spreads. Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2023-01-26 04:25:49] |
| voided - Posts: 45 |
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Thanks for the response. I am primarily a spread trader, and would really appreciate depth data for spreads. If my only option is to download the data in real time, that might be okay. However, in my testing the spread files are always missing records. Is it necessary to keep my Sierra Chart process connected and open at all times (and PC awake) to ensure it records every record? I dont need an enormous amount of data, but even an option to download just the last 48 hours or so would be very helpful. Date Time Of Last Edit: 2023-01-26 04:26:59
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| [2023-01-27 03:51:35] |
| Sierra_Chart Engineering - Posts: 17233 |
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Here is the documentation to identify snapshots: Market Depth Data File Format: Identifying Full Market Depth Data Snapshot Is it necessary to keep my Sierra Chart process connected and open at all times (and PC awake) to ensure it records every record? Yes.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
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