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Date/Time: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 08:25:27 +0000
FYI Sierra Chart Version 2225 Runs on a Mac using Codeweavers Crossover Version 20 for Mac
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| [2021-02-10 16:05:00] |
| User584084 - Posts: 262 |
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Just an FYI. I am running Sierra Chart Version 2225 on a 2011 iMac using Codeweavers Crossover Version 20 for Mac. Codeweavers gives you a 14 day trial. I am using a 2011 iMac 27 inch Core i7 3.4GHZ 32GB PC with macOS High Sierra Version 10.13.6. Here is the YouTube link for the setup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMNR_8_MwDY or Search Youtube for the following Video: "How To Install & Run SierraChart on MacOS Big Sur". Basically you install Crossover for Mac, create a Windows 7 64bit bottle and download Sierra Chart using Crossover. I copied my studies and custom dlls from my Windows Sierra Chart directories to my Mac Sierra Chart directories and everything works great.
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2021-02-19 14:37:45
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| [2021-02-10 21:09:28] |
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Thank you for this.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2021-02-11 02:49:43] |
| ganz - Posts: 1048 |
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User584084 with macOS High Sierra Version 10.13.8
the very last ver was 10.13.6https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222 using Codeweavers Crossover Version 20 for Mac.
10.13 & 10.14 is supported by winehqhttps://wiki.winehq.org/MacOS |
| [2021-02-15 13:46:39] |
| 58LesPaul - Posts: 429 |
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Is this a better option than Parallels? Sounds like you don't have to actually download the whole Windows OS which has got to be better. Have you had any issues since using Crossover? Thanks |
| [2021-02-15 13:58:26] |
| GravisHTG - Posts: 306 |
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I run sierra chart on the new M1 mac for the past 2 month. My experience with Sierra chart on crossover was really good. But last weekend , I had brought back a new PC because of the MACos limitation with Windows program ( I use Trade Idea and Interactive broker ) and their where taking a lot of CPU horsepower and with my charting , I max out the CPU of those m1 machine. Will give it another try when the new MAC PRO with apple silicon will come out. It will have 16 to 32 high performance core. and more than 16GB ram. |
| [2021-02-15 15:43:01] |
| User584084 - Posts: 262 |
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User565725 I think Crossover is a better option than Parallels and Windows for running Sierra Chart on a Mac. I think the performance is better with Crossover. Crossover uses wine to translate Windows API commands to Mac commands to run Windows programs on the Mac. Crossover installs a small subset of Windows C++ libraries needed to run Windows programs like Sierra Chart. No Windows license is required. Crossover only uses a small amount of memory, 315MB (1/3GB). Parallels requires an entire installation of the Windows Operating System (Windows 7, 8 or 10) to run Windows programs. Parallels splits the Mac memory between the Mac and Windows because you are running 2 operating systems at the time. A Windows license is required. Plus the Windows install needs to be updated every month with security patches. The only issue I have running Sierra Chart on Crossover is that the menus stop working after the Mac goes to sleep and reawakens. So I just minimize the Sierra Chart program and then maximize it and the menus work again. My experience with Sierra Chart and Crossover has been very good. |
| [2021-02-19 13:16:09] |
| 58LesPaul - Posts: 429 |
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Are you using Crossover One or Pro? Thanks |
| [2021-02-19 14:35:04] |
| User584084 - Posts: 262 |
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I am using Crossover Pro. The only difference between the two is the phone support and software upgrades for 1 year. I was on the trial for 2 weeks and purchased Crossover Pro after that. I have not had to use the phone support yet. I am more interested in the software updates for 1 year. If you plan on using other Windows programs on the Mac, then maybe the phone support will come in handy. If you don't have any issues during the 2 week Crossover trial, then you probably will be ok with Crossover One. I am currently running Sierra Chart Version 2230 on the Mac which is the current version. So far, I have not had any issues downloading the latest version of Sierra Chart while running Crossover. The download process is the same on the Mac as in Windows. You go to Help in Sierra Chart and then select "Download Current Version". |
| [2021-02-27 22:43:09] |
| User840539 - Posts: 25 |
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Curious if all functionality works on Mac? I am primarily interested in Numbers Bars. Do you guys have experience with that? Thank you!
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| [2021-02-27 23:54:45] |
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If Sierra Chart is able to run on a particular operating system, then all functionality will work.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2021-02-28 04:01:54] |
| User584084 - Posts: 262 |
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User840539 I am using the SC Numbers Bars study on Crossover for Mac with Interactive Brokers Trader Workstation for the Mac as the data source. The functionality is the same as the Windows version. Date Time Of Last Edit: 2021-02-28 04:08:15
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| [2021-02-28 06:28:06] |
| User783093 - Posts: 27 |
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Unfortunately, SierraChart using too much CPU with CrossOver. MacBook Pro is always hot with opened charts even without market activity.
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| [2021-02-28 11:19:32] |
| User840539 - Posts: 25 |
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User584084 Thank you for the info! How's the experience of using TWS as data provider, any lags while having all these programs opened? And have you compared the data from IB to that from Sierra Data Feed? |
| [2021-02-28 19:30:02] |
| User584084 - Posts: 262 |
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User584084 How's the experience of using TWS as data provider?
I would rate IB TWS as average as a data provider. TWS real time data integration with Sierra Chart is very good. I think pulling historical data from TWS to a 3rd party app is limited to 30 days. So TWS falls short there. Sierra Chart provided historical data until recently. Now you need to subscribe to the Sierra Data feeds. There is no way to chart and trade TWS options spreads in Sierra Chart. It is not supported in Sierra Chart. TWS symbols for futures, futures options, stocks and stock options have to be in a certain format to work with Sierra Chart. This can be difficult and may require trial and error to find the right symbol. If you use the Sierra Chart Cumulative Delta Bars study, TWS only allows 3 symbols to access Level 2 quotes. I use Microsoft Excel to pull Real Time Data (RTD) from TWS for options strategies analysis. TWS uses ActiveX to do this. ActiveX is not supported on the Mac. TWS API for the Mac doesn't support integration with Microsoft Excel. A custom solution is required. If you trade Micro Futures and want to use Sierra Chart, the brokers you can trade with and use as a data source are limited. Interactive Brokers being one of a few. Any lags while having all these programs opened?
I have 2 PCs I use. I have a 2013 HP DV7 2.4GHZ Core i7 Quad Core 500GB Windows 8 laptop with 16GB RAM memory. When I run Sierra Chart, TWS, Excel and Firefox on Windows 8, I use 40 to 50% of the CPU and 70 to 80% of the memory. I have 20+ Chartbooks in SC with 5 or 6 Charts per Chartbook running. Sierra Chart uses about 2GB of memory and TWS uses about 1GB memory. Windows uses most of the memory. More memory is better. Memory is cheap. Really helps with the performance. I am also using a Mid 2011 iMac 27 inch 3.4GHZ Core i7 Quad Core with a 1TB HD and 32GB RAM memory. Mac OSX High Sierra Version 10.13.6 is installed on the iMac. When I run Sierra Chart with Crossover for Mac, TWS for Mac and Opera, the system uses only 25% of the CPU and 12GB out 32GB of the memory. 75% of the CPU is idle. Crossover uses about 300MB, Sierra Chart uses 2GB and TWS uses 1GB. I have TG Pro from TunaBelly Software installed on the Mac. Only $10. TG Pro monitors the iMac CPU & GPU temperatures and fan speeds. You can adjust the fan speeds to provide more cooling to the CPU and GPU if needed. And have you compared the data from IB to that from Sierra Data Feed?
I haven't compared the IB data feed with the Sierra data feed. I have no experience with the Sierra data feed. Date Time Of Last Edit: 2021-02-28 21:55:54
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| [2021-02-28 19:40:54] |
| User840539 - Posts: 25 |
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User584084 Thank you very much for a highly detailed answer and good luck with trading! I can't imagine trading with 100+ charts at the same time, max I use is 5 charts 😂 You must be quite a sophisticated trader then! |
| [2021-02-28 20:58:23] |
| 58LesPaul - Posts: 429 |
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If I was getting a new Mac to use Sierra Chart with Crossover, what all would you all recommend? I'm not real computer savvy but would I need a iMac Pro or would a regular iMac work fine? Thanks |
| [2021-02-28 22:02:56] |
| User584084 - Posts: 262 |
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User565725 If I was getting a new Mac to use Sierra Chart with Crossover, what all would you all recommend? I'm not real computer savvy but would I need a iMac Pro or would a regular iMac work fine?
What are you using now? Windows 7, 8 or 10 or Mac OSX? AMD or Intel? Core 2 Duo or Core i3, i5 or i7 Quad Core? How much RAM memory 4GB, 8GB, 16GB or more? |
| [2021-03-01 00:10:25] |
| 58LesPaul - Posts: 429 |
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What are you using now? Windows 7, 8 or 10 or Mac OSX? AMD or Intel? Core 2 Duo or Core i3, i5 or i7 Quad Core? How much RAM memory 4GB, 8GB, 16GB or more?
I have a 2015 iMac with 2.8 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i5 and 8 GB 1867 MHz DDR3. Currently running SC with Parallels and Windows 10. |
| [2021-03-01 02:05:42] |
| 58LesPaul - Posts: 429 |
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I've already researched and called Apple and my models RAM cannot be upgraded unless you unsolder and re-solder, it's not plug and play.
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| [2021-03-01 14:00:17] |
| User840539 - Posts: 25 |
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So I have connected IB as data provider and tried to use the Numbers Bars studies. The image below shows what appears on my screen. Any ideas? The current OS is Catalina. I am using a trial version of SC which claims to include all the functionality, so don't know why it is not working. Help would be greatly appreciated! http://www.sierrachart.com/image.php?Image=1614606990559.png also attaching the Chartbook just in case, seen that You (Sierra Support) sometimes ask for the Chartbook. Date Time Of Last Edit: 2021-03-01 14:08:10
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| [2021-03-01 15:21:39] |
| User584084 - Posts: 262 |
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User840539 So I have connected IB as data provider and tried to use the Numbers Bars studies. The image below shows what appears on my screen. Any ideas? The current OS is Catalina. I am using a trial version of SC which claims to include all the functionality, so don't know why it is not working. Help would be greatly appreciated!
Your tick size is too small. Right click on the chart. Choose chart settings. Then change the tick size to 0.50 or 1 if using a 5 min chart. You can also change the "Bar Period Type" to use "Range Per Bar - True (in ticks)" with a setting of 5 and Tick Size of 1. Adjust the settings to your liking. |
| [2022-02-10 22:57:10] |
| User207252 - Posts: 14 |
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Using Crossover, how do you transfer studies and custom dlls from Windows Sierra Chart directories to Mac Sierra Chart directories?
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| [2022-02-10 23:11:57] |
| GravisHTG - Posts: 306 |
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well , you need to find where you Sierra chart directory is on mac.
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| [2022-02-10 23:12:20] |
| GravisHTG - Posts: 306 |
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Anyone know if Sierra chart is very stable in Parallel ? maybe its worth it to get it instead.
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