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Order confirmations with ACSIL automated trading system

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[2017-09-27 07:07:46]
binaryduke - Posts: 369
Hi SC

Is it possible/feasible to have an ACSIL trading system utilise the existing trade window order confirmation functionality, i.e. upon the system placing an order, the trade window confirmation logic intervenes and the order is only placed upon user confirmation? If so, would this still apply if the trade symbol has been changed by the trading system to a different symbol from that charted? If not, could you please provide some guidance as to the route to follow to achieve this.

Many thanks

Lee.
[2017-09-27 07:14:44]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
What we can add support for is the ability to submit a "Held" order which can then be submitted from the Trade >> Trade Orders and Positions >> Orders tab.

If so, would this still apply if the trade symbol has been changed by the trading system to a different symbol from that charted?
With what we describe above, this will be supported.
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[2017-09-27 07:49:53]
binaryduke - Posts: 369
Sounds good. Will watch the release notes.
[2017-09-27 17:12:02]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
OK we do not know when we can get to this. It may or may not be soon.
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For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service:
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[2017-10-03 18:21:36]
User232323 - Posts: 5
Hi, I was wondering whether this has been done or scheduled to be done. Thank you.
[2017-10-03 18:42:22]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
We do not know when we can get to this.

We cannot make any promise. It is not likely to be until months from now.
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Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation

For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
[2018-01-17 02:27:07]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
What we can add support for is the ability to submit a "Held" order which can then be submitted from the Trade >> Trade Orders and Positions >> Orders tab.
This is now done and will be out in the next release.

It is untested though. This is the structure member for this:

  s_SCNewOrder::SubmitAsHeldOrder
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level

Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation

For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2018-01-17 02:27:26
[2024-09-21 15:32:43]
ForgivingComputers.com - Posts: 960
What we can add support for is the ability to submit a "Held" order which can then be submitted from the Trade >> Trade Orders and Positions >> Orders tab.
This is now done and will be out in the next release.

It is untested though. This is the structure member for this:

s_SCNewOrder::SubmitAsHeldOrder

This is a good start. Is there or will there be an ACSIL function to Release the Held Order? (I am currently doing a workaround by submitting orders with out of range prices that will be modified at a set time to the correct price.)
[2024-09-24 21:01:10]
Sierra_Chart Engineering - Posts: 17145
No, it has to be manually released. Not sure it makes sense to have an automated program submit a held order then later release it. You should simply submit an order when you actually want to.
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For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service:
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2024-09-24 21:01:15
[2024-09-24 22:53:31]
ForgivingComputers.com - Posts: 960
No, it has to be manually released. Not sure it makes sense to have an automated program submit a held order then later release it. You should simply submit an order when you actually want to.

That's what automated trading systems do. What is the difference between having a study release a trade and submitting one in the future? That is when I want it submitted.

I want to submit and hold before the market opens, as I know the levels, I just don't want any fills before a specific time. The orders are later released when I am at work and unable to manually do it.

If the orders could be held and later released at CurrentSystemtime == HH:MM:SS, then that would be great. Something like
sc.ReleaseOrder(OrderID);

I like the fact that you continually add new features and a held order feature is a good one. I see you added it several years ago, and only now have I learned about it, which is good news/bad news. It will be complete when it is the release is automated.

Thank you.

BradH
[2024-09-25 07:19:38]
binaryduke - Posts: 369
Playing devil's advocate on this, what's the point of automatically submitting and automatically later releasing vs just simply automatically submitting at the time that trading's desired? There's no queue advantage to submitting the order early as the platform's going to hold it back from the exchange.

I understand the use case I set out when I originally made this feature request but I'm not understanding the use case behind automatic release.
[2024-09-25 15:15:02]
Sierra_Chart Engineering - Posts: 17145
Not a problem for us to add the function. We will do that.
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Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation

For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
[2024-09-27 01:43:26]
ForgivingComputers.com - Posts: 960
what's the point of automatically submitting and automatically later releasing vs just simply automatically submitting at the time that trading's desired?

I want to submit the orders before the market opens, and only have them take effect at a specific time after the market opens. I don't want any fills should my prices be hit before the open. If I want to submit it at time x, and I want to use the latest trade window brackets for each order, it would be a lot easier to just release a trade, then to have to create a new order entry UI.

Other checks need to happen, in order to avoid bad limit orders, so there may be cases where the order ends up cancelled and not released.

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