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Chart - Data/Trade Service Settings
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[2017-05-11 01:01:27] |
User629089 - Posts: 93 |
Hi, I'm running around 40 charts on a 6 monitor setup. Many are a 30 minute timeframe. Three or four charts are a 1 min timeframe (the shortest timeframe I use, no tick or second charts) and I have the Cumulative Delta Bars, Volume version added as a study. According to the documentation to run the CD Volume study you must have the "Intraday Data Storage Time Unit" set either to 1 tick or 1 second. Because this is a Global Setting all charts are running this way. This seems wrong on longer timeframe charts. Is there a way to have the longer charts operating at the longest IDSTU level, the 1 minute? Am I correct in needing the 1 tick or 1 second setting for 1 minute charts with the CD Volume study, or should that (the 1 tick setting especially) be for Cumulative Delta Bars - Up/Down Tick Volume version only? Obviously I'm trying to reduce the CPU load. I hope this makes sense... Thanks... |
[2017-05-12 04:05:27] |
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368 |
We apologize for the delay. This seems wrong on longer timeframe charts. Is there a way to have the longer charts operating at the longest IDSTU level, the 1 minute? No, this is not possible.However, in the case of Cumulative Delta Bars-Volume, you really could use a 2 Seconds Intraday Data Storage Time Unit. That will be fine. Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing Date Time Of Last Edit: 2017-05-12 04:06:06
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[2017-08-21 23:53:32] |
User629089 - Posts: 93 |
Hi, Following up on our conversation from a few months ago, I have a 111 GB SSD (solid state drive) that is close to capacity in my PC. I'm using 2 seconds for the Intaday Data Storage Time Unit. To save hard drive space I'm wondering if from the Data/Trade Service Settings the "Max Historical Intraday Days to Download" could be changed to something much less that 186? Would that save hard drive space? Would the Non-Tick Data and 1-Tick Data need to have the identical days? I'm looking at a lot of symbols so would reducing the number of symbols reduce the data to the hard drive? Does a chartbook/workspace that is closed have data go to the hard drive? Obviously I'd like to clean up the hard drive if possible. Thanks |
[2017-08-22 12:49:04] |
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368 |
. To save hard drive space I'm wondering if from the Data/Trade Service Settings the "Max Historical Intraday Days to Download" could be changed to something much less that 186? Yes you can but that will not immediately change the size of the data files.You really need to use this function: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/DataSourceSettings.php#DataFileManagement Would the Non-Tick Data and 1-Tick Data need to have the identical days? no they do not. I'm looking at a lot of symbols so would reducing the number of symbols reduce the data to the hard drive? Yes. But you will have to delete any chart data files you currently have and no longer need:Chart Data and Chart Data Files: Deleting a Chart Data File Does a chartbook/workspace that is closed have data go to the hard drive? Yes of course. A Chartbook is a file.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing Date Time Of Last Edit: 2017-08-22 12:49:54
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[2017-08-26 20:30:44] |
User629089 - Posts: 93 |
Hi, I'm still working on reducing the amount of data on my SSD. Per your instructions from your last correspondence, I did the first recommendation of compressing the data files using the link. I had 71 records to compress. I changed it to "30 days" for the "Compress records older than" setting and "1 Minute" for the "Compress to Data Unit Size" setting. It seems that should vastly reduce the data. Later I used the second link to delete any chart data files that are no longer needed. I think I reduced the 71 number to 13 but I was checking all this prior to writing here and ended up having 28 somehow. I again deleted older files and have 13 again which looks correct as they're all current symbols that I use. In addition I deleted one Chartbook, and only have left the one I'm using along with a back up for it, and the original Chartbook that came with SC's when downloaded. Currently I only have 5.31 GB free of the 111 GB SSD. Is there anything else I can do other than reducing the symbols I use to free some HD space? It just seems that the entire SSD is filled with this data as I only use this machine for trading and nothing else other than a little internet browsing. Any ideas? Thanks |
[2017-08-27 03:15:35] |
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368 |
You really need to examine your SSD to find out what is taking the most amount of space. There are utilities available which can help you with this. Make sure you activate NTFS compression on that SSD. And also clean up any unnecessary files on it. What is using the most space not even be Sierra Chart files to begin with. Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing Date Time Of Last Edit: 2017-08-27 03:15:55
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[2017-08-28 02:09:45] |
User629089 - Posts: 93 |
Hi, Thanks for all the info. When you activate the NTFS compression on the SSD there are two options, either: Apply changes to drive C:\only, or Apply changes to drive C:\,subfolders and files. Which should I use? I researched this online but am unsure what do to and don't want to mess it up. I've vastly reduced the symbols I'm using in SC along with 3 symbols I had been using continuous contracts going to the front month only. I also have Jigsaw's stand alone platform called daytrdr. I was running two DOM's there and have reduced it to one. I think that's it as far as anything else that would be using up any real space on the drive. Thanks... |
[2017-08-28 02:32:15] |
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368 |
Use: Apply changes to drive C:\,subfolders and files. Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
[2017-08-28 14:31:36] |
User629089 - Posts: 93 |
Hi, Thanks for the info. Unfortunately the SSD compression is Administrator/password protected so I'm in the process of sorting this out with the place I bought the PC. I'm wondering if the data for SC's could go to the very large HD I have on this PC with the SC program being left on the SSD? I realize that's probably not possible, correct? Or, just moving SC's from the SSD to the large HD. The performance of the SSD is far superior than the HD, but at least the SSD capacity issue would be resolved, right? I guess I really screwed this up by having so many symbols active using up so much SSD space. I thought that if the SSD was full, everything would just continue with the other HD's coming in and taking over. I had no idea there would be an issue when an SSD is reaching capacity. Thanks |
[2017-08-28 15:12:36] |
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368 |
We do not recommend using a hard drive for Sierra Chart data files. We recommend only an SSD. But this is up to you.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
[2017-08-30 00:05:57] |
User629089 - Posts: 93 |
Hi, I am unable to compress the SSD for some reason. I've tried everything I can think of. I don't plan on using the hard drive for the SC data files. I'm thinking now of uninstalling SC's and setting up from scratch with only 3 symbols instead of about 15 and all the other recommendations we've talked about to save disk space. The only thing I use other than SC's that could have used up any real SSD space was Jigsaw's daytradr stand alone platform but that doesn't save data historically. It's Depth and Sales and a number of other tools that doesn't store historical data. Does this make any sense? Thanks |
[2017-08-30 03:12:35] |
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368 |
If you need to install Sierra Chart on the hard drive, that would be fine. But you should really change that to an SSD at some point. We really do not think it is necessary to remove Sierra Chart and install it again. Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
[2017-08-30 17:31:20] |
User629089 - Posts: 93 |
Hi, This morning I did move Sierra Charts, Rithmic and the Jigsaw daytradr to a large "E" hard drive. Everything seems to work just fine so far. I don't really use anything else on a daily basis in addition other than IE and Chrome. Peter Davies of JS suggested I delete the daytradr "Depth History" to free up some space in addition to moving the program. There was like 275 CSV files there with a lot of usage. I'm wondering if there is anything else I could do in regards to SC's, something like the depth history that could be changed or deleted? Thanks |
[2017-08-30 20:12:32] |
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368 |
We realize that Sierra Chart may be maintaining market depth data files depending upon what studies you are using and what options you have enabled. To delete these files, refer to: Chart Data and Chart Data Files: Deleting a Market Depth Data File Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
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