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Having ATM setting problem

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[2015-04-30 16:19:51]
User41473 - Posts: 21
Dear Sierra chart,

In my Live trading,I put a market order to sell Gold with a 17tick stop and a 43tick Take Profit(Target) but as soon as the order got filled, it cancels and knocked out my order. This did not happen when I was demo trading.

Can you help me with the simple way to set a market sell stop order with a 17tick stop and a 40tick Take Profit limit? this is a parent order.
[2015-04-30 16:54:08]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
This is not clear for us. Here are instructions to use the Attached Order feature in Sierra Chart:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/doc_AttachedOrders.html
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[2015-04-30 17:44:01]
User41473 - Posts: 21
Dear support, I am not talking about attached order.

I am talking about my main order. I submitted a market order to sell Gold at 1202 with a stop loss of 17tick and 34ticks profit target. This market order got filled and cancel out immediately. I dont know why. I used simple bracket.
Please tell me how to put a market order with a definite target point set and the stop point using a simple bracket.
[2015-05-01 03:05:49]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
Now we understand the problem.

We need to see the Trade Activity Log lines for the 3 orders to understand why this is happening. Here are instructions to provide them:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/doc_TradeActivityLog.php#TradeActivityLogToSupport
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[2015-05-01 08:24:25]
User41473 - Posts: 21
ActivityType  DateTime  Symbol  OrderActionSource  InternalOrderID  ServiceOrderID  OrderType  Quantity  BuySell  Price  Price2  OrderStatus  FillPrice  FilledQuantity  TradeAccount  OpenClose  ParentInternalOrderID  PositionQuantity  FillExecutionServiceID
Order  2015-04-30 08:06:34.000    Connected to server                Unspecified      None        
Order  2015-04-30 08:06:39.000    Requesting all orders from trading service                Unspecified      None        
Order  2015-04-30 08:07:36.000    Trade Simulation Mode has been disabled                Unspecified      None        
Order  2015-04-30 08:36:31.000  F.US.GCEM15  F.US.GCEM15 500 Trades #5 | User order entry | Last: 1197.4. Attached Order  9533    Market if Touched    Buy  1196.3    Pending Child      476821  Close  9532    
Order  2015-04-30 08:36:31.001  F.US.GCEM15  F.US.GCEM15 500 Trades #5 | User order entry | Last: 1197.4. Attached Order  9534    Stop    Buy  1203.3    Pending Child      476821  Close  9532    
Order  2015-04-30 08:36:31.002  F.US.GCEM15  F.US.GCEM15 500 Trades #5 | User order entry | Last: 1197.4  9532    Limit  1  Sell  1201.3    Order Sent      476821  Open      
Order  2015-04-30 08:36:32.000  F.US.GCEM15  CQG order update (New). Exchange ID:   9532  1265715954  Limit  1  Sell  1201.3    Pending Open      476821  Open      
Order  2015-04-30 08:36:32.001  F.US.GCEM15  CQG order update (New). Exchange ID:   9532  1265715954  Limit  1  Sell  1201.3    Open      476821  Open      
Order  2015-04-30 08:36:36.000  F.US.GCEM15  F.US.GCEM15 500 Trades #5 | User order cancel  9532  1265715954  Limit  1  Sell  1201.3    Pending Cancel      476821  Open      
Order  2015-04-30 08:36:36.001  F.US.GCEM15  Canceling child orders of internal order ID 9532  9533    Market if Touched    Buy  1196.3    Pending Cancel      476821  Close  9532    
Order  2015-04-30 08:36:36.002  F.US.GCEM15  Canceling child orders of internal order ID 9532  9533    Market if Touched    Buy  1196.3    Canceled      476821  Close  9532    
Order  2015-04-30 08:36:36.003  F.US.GCEM15  Canceling child orders of internal order ID 9532  9534    Stop    Buy  1203.3    Pending Cancel      476821  Close  9532    
Order  2015-04-30 08:36:36.004  F.US.GCEM15  Canceling child orders of internal order ID 9532  9534    Stop    Buy  1203.3    Canceled      476821  Close  9532    
Order  2015-04-30 08:36:36.005  F.US.GCEM15  CQG order update (Cancel). Exchange ID:   9532  1265715954  Limit  1  Sell  1201.3    Canceled      476821  Open      
Order  2015-04-30 08:47:32.000  F.US.GCEM15  F.US.GCEM15 500 Trades #5 | User order entry | Last: 1195.7001. Attached Order  9536    Market if Touched    Buy  1190.6    Pending Child      476821  Close  9535    
Order  2015-04-30 08:47:32.001  F.US.GCEM15  F.US.GCEM15 500 Trades #5 | User order entry | Last: 1195.7001. Attached Order  9537    Stop    Buy  1196.8    Pending Child      476821  Close  9535    
Order  2015-04-30 08:47:32.002  F.US.GCEM15  F.US.GCEM15 500 Trades #5 | User order entry | Last: 1195.7001  9535    Market  1  Sell      Order Sent      476821  Open      
Order  2015-04-30 08:47:32.003  F.US.GCEM15  CQG order update (New). Exchange ID:   9535  1265657696  Market  1  Sell      Pending Open      476821  Open      
Order  2015-04-30 08:47:33.000  F.US.GCEM15  CQG order update (New). Exchange ID:   9535  1265657696  Market  1  Sell      Open      476821  Open      
Order  2015-04-30 08:47:33.001  F.US.GCEM15  CQG order update (Fill). Exchange ID: 4386647704  9535  1265657696  Market  1  Sell      Filled  1195.5  1  476821  Open      
Fill  2015-04-30 08:47:33.002  F.US.GCEM15  CQG order update (Fill). Exchange ID: 4386647704  9535  1265657696  Market  1  Sell      Filled  1195.5  1  476821  Open    -1  4386647704
Order  2015-04-30 08:47:33.003  F.US.GCEM15  Modifying Attached Order from parent modification/fill. Ref price: 1195.5. Requested Price: 1190.5. Requested Quantity: 0  9536    Market if Touched    Buy  1190.6    Pending Modify      476821  Close  9535  -1  
Order  2015-04-30 08:47:33.004  F.US.GCEM15  Order modified internally  9536    Market if Touched    Buy  1190.5    Pending Child      476821  Close  9535  -1  
Order  2015-04-30 08:47:33.005  F.US.GCEM15  Modifying Attached Order from parent modification/fill. Ref price: 1195.5. Requested Price: 1196.7. Requested Quantity: 0  9537    Stop    Buy  1196.8    Pending Modify      476821  Close  9535  -1  
Order  2015-04-30 08:47:33.006  F.US.GCEM15  Order modified internally  9537    Stop    Buy  1196.7    Pending Child      476821  Close  9535  -1  
Order  2015-04-30 08:47:33.007  F.US.GCEM15  Auto-sent child from parent fill  9536    Market if Touched  1  Buy  1190.5    Order Sent      476821  Close  9535  -1  
Order  2015-04-30 08:47:33.008  F.US.GCEM15  Auto-sent child from parent fill  9537    Stop  1  Buy  1196.7    Order Sent      476821  Close  9535  -1  
Order  2015-04-30 08:47:33.009  F.US.GCEM15  CQG order update (New). Exchange ID:   9536  1265633239  Market if Touched  1  Buy  1190.5    Pending Open      476821  Close  9535  -1  
Order  2015-04-30 08:47:33.010  F.US.GCEM15  CQG order update (New). Exchange ID:   9537  1265633240  Stop  1  Buy  1196.7    Pending Open      476821  Close  9535  -1  
Order  2015-04-30 08:47:33.011  F.US.GCEM15  CQG order update (New). Exchange ID:   9536  1265633239  Market if Touched  1  Buy  1190.5    Open      476821  Close  9535  -1  
Order  2015-04-30 08:47:33.012  F.US.GCEM15  CQG order update (Fill). Exchange ID: 4386647707  9536  1265633239  Market if Touched  1  Buy  1190.5    Filled  1195.6  1  476821  Close  9535  -1  
Fill  2015-04-30 08:47:33.013  F.US.GCEM15  CQG order update (Fill). Exchange ID: 4386647707  9536  1265633239  Market if Touched  1  Buy  1190.5    Filled  1195.6  1  476821  Close      4386647707
Order  2015-04-30 08:47:33.014  F.US.GCEM15  CQG order update (New). Exchange ID:   9537  1265633240  Stop  1  Buy  1196.7    Open      476821  Close  9535    
Order  2015-04-30 08:47:33.015  F.US.GCEM15  CQG order update (Pending Cancel). Exchange ID:   9537  1265633240  Stop  1  Buy  1196.7    Pending Cancel      476821  Close  9535    
Order  2015-04-30 08:47:33.016  F.US.GCEM15  CQG order update (Cancel). Exchange ID:   9537  1265633240  Stop  1  Buy  1196.7    Canceled      476821  Close  9535    
Order  2015-04-30 08:47:41.000  F.US.GCEM15  Removing Position with quantity of 0                Unspecified      476821        
Order  2015-04-30 09:36:15.000  F.US.GCEM15  F.US.GCEM15 500 Trades #5 | User order entry | Last: 1184.9  9551    Stop  1  Sell  1184.6    Order Sent      476821  Open      
Order  2015-04-30 09:36:15.001  F.US.GCEM15  CQG order update (New). Exchange ID:   9551  1265653997  Stop  1  Sell  1184.6    Pending Open      476821  Open      
Order  2015-04-30 09:36:15.002  F.US.GCEM15  CQG order update (New). Exchange ID:   9551  1265653997  Stop  1  Sell  1184.6    Open      476821  Open      
Order  2015-04-30 09:36:32.000  F.US.GCEM15  F.US.GCEM15 500 Trades #5 | User order modification. Requested Price: 1184.5. Requested Quantity: 1  9551  1265653997  Stop  1  Sell  1184.6    Pending Modify      476821  Open      
Order  2015-04-30 09:36:33.000  F.US.GCEM15  CQG order update (Replace). Exchange ID:   9551  1265634503  Stop  1  Sell  1184.5    Open      476821  Open      
Order  2015-04-30 09:36:45.000  F.US.GCEM15  F.US.GCEM15 500 Trades #5 | User order modification. Requested Price: 1184.4. Requested Quantity: 1  9551  1265634503  Stop  1  Sell  1184.5    Pending Modify      476821  Open      
Order  2015-04-30 09:36:45.001  F.US.GCEM15  CQG order update (Replace). Exchange ID:   9551  1265664160  Stop  1  Sell  1184.4    Open      476821  Open      
Order  2015-04-30 09:36:55.000  F.US.GCEM15  F.US.GCEM15 500 Trades #5 | User order cancel  9551  1265664160  Stop  1  Sell  1184.4    Pending Cancel      476821  Open      
Order  2015-04-30 09:36:56.000  F.US.GCEM15  CQG order update (Cancel). Exchange ID:   9551  1265664160  Stop  1  Sell  1184.4    Canceled      476821  Open      
Order  2015-04-30 09:37:32.000  F.US.GCEM15  F.US.GCEM15 500 Trades #5 | User order entry | Last: 1185.2001  9552    Stop  1  Sell  1184.3    Order Sent      476821  Open      
Order  2015-04-30 09:37:33.000  F.US.GCEM15  CQG order update (New). Exchange ID:   9552  1265634544  Stop  1  Sell  1184.3    Pending Open      476821  Open      
Order  2015-04-30 09:37:33.001  F.US.GCEM15  CQG order update (New). Exchange ID:   9552  1265634544  Stop  1  Sell  1184.3    Open      476821  Open      
Order  2015-04-30 09:37:38.000  F.US.GCEM15  F.US.GCEM15 500 Trades #5 | User order modification. Requested Price: 1184.5. Requested Quantity: 1  9552  1265634544  Stop  1  Sell  1184.3    Pending Modify      476821  Open      
Order  2015-04-30 09:37:38.001  F.US.GCEM15  CQG order update (Replace). Exchange ID:   9552  1265634552  Stop  1  Sell  1184.5    Open      476821  Open      
Order  2015-04-30 09:37:48.000  F.US.GCEM15  F.US.GCEM15 500 Trades #5 | User order modification. Requested Price: 1184.4. Requested Quantity: 1  9552  1265634552  Stop  1  Sell  1184.5    Pending Modify      476821  Open      
Order  2015-04-30 09:37:48.001  F.US.GCEM15  CQG order update (Replace). Exchange ID:   9552  1265683153  Stop  1  Sell  1184.4    Open      476821  Open      
Order  2015-04-30 09:38:13.000  F.US.GCEM15  F.US.GCEM15 500 Trades #5 | User order cancel  9552  1265683153  Stop  1  Sell  1184.4    Pending Cancel      476821  Open      
Order  2015-04-30 09:38:13.001  F.US.GCEM15  CQG order update (Cancel). Exchange ID:   9552  1265683153  Stop  1  Sell  1184.4    Canceled      476821  Open      
Order  2015-04-30 12:06:07.000    Requesting all orders from trading service                Unspecified      None        
Order  2015-04-30 12:20:37.000    Disconnected from server                Unspecified      None        
Order  2015-04-30 13:33:53.000    Connected to server                Unspecified      None        
Order  2015-04-30 13:33:59.000    Requesting all orders from trading service                Unspecified      None        
Order  2015-04-30 13:34:00.002  F.US.GCEM15  Removing Position with quantity of 0                Unspecified      476821        
Order  2015-04-30 13:40:32.000    Trade Simulation Mode has been enabled                Unspecified      None        
Order  2015-04-30 13:45:56.000    Disconnected from server                Unspecified      None        
Order  2015-04-30 13:46:04.000    Connected to server                Unspecified      None        
Order  2015-04-30 13:46:09.000    Requesting all orders from trading service                Unspecified      None        
Order  2015-04-30 13:46:11.002  F.US.GCEM15  Removing Position with quantity of 0                Unspecified      476821        
Order  2015-04-30 14:08:53.000    Disconnected from server                Unspecified      None        
Order  2015-04-30 14:09:10.000    Connected to server                Unspecified      None        
Order  2015-04-30 14:09:15.000    Requesting all orders from trading service                Unspecified      None        
Order  2015-04-30 14:09:17.002  F.US.GCEM15  Removing Position with quantity of 0                Unspecified      476821        
Order  2015-04-30 14:28:53.000    Trade Simulation Mode has been disabled                Unspecified      None        
Order  2015-04-30 15:04:23.000    Disconnected from server                Unspecified      None        
Order  2015-05-01 04:00:06.000    Connected to server                Unspecified      None        
Order  2015-05-01 04:00:11.000    Requesting all orders from trading service                Unspecified      None        

[2015-05-01 19:05:32]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
This thread has been corrected. The previous response was not correct.

This is the problem:
Order 2015-04-30 08:47:33.012 F.US.GCEM15 CQG order update (Fill). Exchange ID: 4386647707 9536 1265633239 Market if Touched 1 Buy 1190.5 Filled 1195.6 1 476821 Close 9535 -1

Notice how this buy order has a price of 1190.5 but it is immediately filled at 1195.6


The problem is Market if Touched orders are not supported by CQG and have been converted to a market order by the Sierra Chart code. This should not be happening especially in the case of an OCO order set.

This has been resolved in version 1252.


Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level

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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2015-05-02 06:27:25
[2015-05-01 22:50:01]
User11942 - Posts: 298
Sorry for contribution but just FYI. Not sure if it's applicable for CQG FIX though...
AFAIK CQG supports MIT orders with some certain exchanges only (if you have access to Integrated Client or QTrader you can easily find it). MIT orders are not supported for almost all US futures exchanges because they aren't native for those exchanges. That's what I was told by CQG when asked them to explain why MIT orders are not supported on their front-end applications.
All others (CTS, Rithmic, IB etc) support MIT orders but as synthetic orders (processed by the respective vendors).
You may want to check with exchanges and CQG what type of orders are supported.

[2015-05-01 23:24:35]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
Actually in regards to MIT orders with CQG,this order type should not even get to the point of the order getting submitted.

We have now looked into this and determined the problem. We are fixing it now. They were being submitted as market orders because the order type is unsupported so it defaulted to a market order.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level

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For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service:
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2015-05-02 06:29:02

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