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Date/Time: Sat, 23 Nov 2024 12:47:02 +0000
[User Discussion] - Overlays need frequent recalculate
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| [2013-06-04 10:04:59] |
| teowinner - Posts: 16 |
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hi guys, I am experiencing the overlays from lower to higher and to lower time frame showing different from the original source. pls try out this setup; use a 1 min time frame, we use "light sweet crude" oil future for testing purposes.... then put in a slow stochastic settings of 15, 3, 1...with simple moving average as the type. Note: I use the setting of "1" because I only want to see the Slow %K line only,no need the D% line... next hide study for this stochastic. after this use "Study/Price Overlay" it to a 5 mins time frame chart region 2. we will see this 1 min stochastic reflect onto the 5 mins time frame. now go back to 1 min and do a "Study/Price Overlay" from the 5 mins as the source input... we will see exactly the pattern.... as after a while of about 30 mins, the pattern is not the same as previous 30 mins ago, I have to use Chart>>Recalculate to reset it back, every now and then have to reset,,,,very annoying you know... I hope this issue will be easy for you guys and hope that to receives the solution soon... here, thanks again for those previous requests been answered and solved. |
| [2013-06-04 13:09:00] |
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You need to understand our perspective on this. We see that you do not have a paid account. These kinds of requests are potentially very costly to us. You are presenting us with a complex problem that is time-consuming and difficult for us to understand. Anyway, it sounds as though you have a circular chart reference and you are never going to get this to work right. And there is nothing we can do to resolve that. Yes it is an annoyance, but it is also burdensome for us and we have no ability to resolve this because you are creating the problem by creating a circular reference. Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing Date Time Of Last Edit: 2013-06-04 13:09:21
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| [2013-06-14 16:47:02] |
| teowinner - Posts: 16 |
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Hi guys, I had been trading with Infinity future for more than 5 years and had been using sierra charts until now....I am using a different account to post. I want to bring out one saying " a good mechanic can tune up a F1 formula car but he cannot be good on the race track, that is why only F1 driver will able to and they can tell u what problem they face when trial run on the track...." I want to show u guys the great differences from using the circular vs the normal. The unnecessary noise being clean out showing a true value line and accurate cross overs for entries and exits. It also clearly identify the trend above or below and sideway market during that period of time. Just for illustration, see the arrow on the 2 chart, does it tell u something when 3 lines cross over!! confirm up or down movement 100% no question ask.. There are 4 time frames being overlay onto the lowest for entry and exit in this chart. I would like you guys to help add in the "RECALCULATE" option on the Overlay/price study at interval of 1 min automatically . Hope this can be solved at your earliest convenience and thanks! |
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| [2013-06-14 18:09:52] |
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There is no chance ever we would add this option. It would create too much of a CPU load, cause problems and it would only be trying to support something which is technically correct. This is exactly the kind of thing that we will stay away from. It only creates problems for us. Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing Date Time Of Last Edit: 2013-06-14 18:50:46
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| [2013-06-15 04:27:47] |
| teowinner - Posts: 16 |
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hi guys, I understand what u guys position, can I explain further of what I observe: look at Chart>>Recalculate..when selected, it will do a recalculation of all those charts of the same symbol regardless whether what types of studies we set up, and within a second, all updated.The CPU does not show any spikes of load whether I use the circular reference or the normal overlay/price function, it does not freeze up nor lag in the chart price bars, even I test onto one second time frame, no loading on the CPU.. as per normal...looking at the Windows Task Manager performance graphs, normally when using 10 charts with or without circular referencing is around 23% CPU load when market opens and aggressive trading activities, it occasionally spikes, but within a flip of second, back to normal...I click on the 'Recalculate,, the charts get updated within a second without any spikes of load on the CPU, I do not understand which "CPU" u guys is referring??? I using quad core, I believes most traders will use fast speed CPU nowadays to trade in this fast internet trading... May I suggest that this "Recalculate" be written with a check box and a default 1 min time cycle set in the program. Trader can uncheck if they do not require this tool. After so many years using Sierra Charting, I really like it because of it flexibility to create a good charting to suit my trading decisions, accurate and no fuss...comparing to others charting providers... hey guys, must give it a go and make the most out of the software ability, there must be a simplify way to make it works, as a full time trader, we will count on u guys to support us to make a living, same as the F1 drivers needs their mechanics to tune up their engines to win in the race....the drivers don't know what to do?? Right?? thanks and cheers! |
| [2013-06-15 19:00:32] |
| M5amhan - Posts: 468 |
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maybe try adding the "recalculate" to a new toolbar and have it next to your chart so you do not have to use the drop down menu every time you need to recalculate.. 23% is already a large amount of CPU usage, most should only be anywhere from 1-5% very low CPU usage is one of the many reasons sierra chart is superior, provides for quicker executions and more focus on instant data updating with no lags. i dont think they intend to fittle with this as many other platforms do trying to implement more bells and whistles every month |
| [2013-06-16 03:57:30] |
| teowinner - Posts: 16 |
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hi Trade2day1, I had created the keyboard shortcut keys and right click shortcut to refresh this "Recalculate"..... try imagine you click it every 1 min while you is actively trading at market opens, can you concentrate?? This signal is very very important to entry and exit at the right moment without any lag when using this setup, this is the differences if you use the standard setup, lags 1-2 bars....price had moved already...see the attached last put up highlight in circle.... CPU loading is 23% considering running 10 charts with full studies, cht file size is about 7,000kb, I am OK with the CPU load. I only need the trading platform that is super fast and simple to trade,I don't trade on chart, as far as full system charting with studies, there is always a lag behind the real live price data feed,that is why I use infinity AT platform and Sierra Charting for > 5 years after switching from IT Charts 4 yrs, Ninja 3 yrs... hope u can see the difference as I am a day trader---scupper and not a swing or long term trader, and the timing must be exactly to go in and come out fast with minimum stop loss.... cheers! |
| [2013-07-11 06:24:33] |
| Crazy_Bull - Posts: 17 |
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teowinner, I was researching spreadsheet Recalculation and happened to come across this thread. If you have basic programming skills, you can easily achieve Auto Recalculation at a specified interval using AutoHotkey. I did the same myself in about 15 lines of code. I can supply you the code if you like. AutoHotkey is a great program for circumventing shortcomings in all applications. For Sierra Charts, I used it to do such things as: * Automate the removal of deprecated Define Names (#REF!). With thousands of Define Names, this is a MUST! * Implemented the ability to place the cross-hairs on a bar and then jump to the correspond row in the spreadsheet * Automatically copy a formula cell to a column or a row of cell formulas to multiple columns Anyway, you get the idea of the versatility of AutoHotkey. Hope this helps! Regards! |
| [2013-07-11 23:11:45] |
| TastyRisk - Posts: 119 |
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@teowinner Imagine each bar is a book. In the first chart you had 5 books. Let's say the Open price was printed on the the front cover & the Last/Close price on the rear cover. You then grouped these books together. The result is that the inside pages get lost. Only the front cover of book 1 & the rear cover of book 5 remain. You want the separate prices to be available - but the information has already been lost ! *teowinner* Question for you; Can you avoid the loss of information - as described above - when using Ninja ? |
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